Chinese come from Africa, just like the rest of us
Posted: Thursday, May 12, 2005
CNA, HONG KONG
An international study has found that the Chinese people originated not from “Peking Man” in northern China, but from early humans in East Africa who moved through South Asia to China some 100,000 years ago, Hong Kong’s Ming Pao daily reported yesterday in a finding that confirms the “single origin” theory in anthropology.
According to the newspaper, a research team led by Jin Li (of Fudan University in Shanghai has found that modern humans evolved from a single origin, not multiple origins as some experts believe.
In China, school textbooks teach that the Chinese race evolved from “Peking Man,” based on a theory that humans in Europe and Asia evolved from local species.
But Jin and his fellow researchers found that early humans belonged to different species, of which only the East African species developed into modern humans.
This new finding nullifies the theory that the ancestors of the Chinese people were “Peking Man” who lived in northern China 400,000 years ago.
Based on DNA analyses of 100,000 samples gathered from around the world, a number of human families evolved in East Africa some 150,000 years ago, said Li Hui, a member of Jin’s team.
About 100,000 years ago, some of those humans began to leave Africa, with some people moving to China via South and Southeast Asia, Li said.
According to the newspaper article, it has been proven that the “65 branches of the Chinese race” share similar DNA mutations with the peoples of East and Southeast Asia.
It said that the Shanghai scientists were part of an international team comprised of researchers from Russia, India, Brazil and other nations in a five-year project studying the geographic and genealogical routes related to the spread and settlement of modern humans.
Thank you,.
This is a study I have been following the last 20 years. It is indeed a wonderful day where we can begin to see how we are not separate from each other and celebrate the humanity in all of us.
I remember a time where it was told that Africans were heathens, not human, and had no considerable contribution to the societies of earth other than SLAVERY! Now today we can see through science that nothing could be further from the truth!
This ongoing debate that is occurring through scientist is part of an ongoing debate that preceded modern science. Fortunately for humanity scientific discoveries have done nothing but undo much of the assumed positions Racist have taken all over the world.
Today we can clearly see a means to embrace each other in love and respect rather than continue fighting and oppressing each other based on prior ideas of race, color and culture!
I wish to continue on this path!
ONE!
hellenian white race originate from andromeda, blacks were brought here from syrius, chinese is the hybrydized race made by the evil draconians(lizard looking) race(so called gods in bible) which kept on raping the white race women creating white lizard race the chinese, if u warship darwin i am questioning your inteligence
here is more
hellenandchaos.blogspot.com
Go to lamu east africa and you will find adults and children with exceptional chinese looks.They are not really common but it is quite noticable
First, everybody originated from Africa from 50,000 to 100,000 years ago. But when civilizations (culture, language identity, even the homogenous appearance of people) in various parts of the world came into existence, those people evolved far away from their original African phenotype. Europeans about 5000 years ago were fairly light skinned and appear as they do today. So does the many Asian people with their honey skinned/tawny complexion and almond-shaped eyes. Did the Europeans and Asians who came together respectively in their parts of the world and create a civilization appear like the Africans of today? No. Did they appear like the Africans 5000 years ago, no, probably not.
If you actually go to legitimate web sites (Anthropological Web Sites, Forensic-Based Websites, Medical/Genetic websites) and not these “centrist” websites, you will learn that over 10,000 Years ago, the so-called Europeans, Middle-Easterners, Asians, etc. began “evolving” away from their African roots. In fact, their DNA began to show slight changes as to give them their respective phenotype as seen today.
Lastly, here is a question for all you Black Centrists. Did the Ancient Africans from 50,000~100,000 years ago appear like they do today? I don’t think, with the exception of the complexion of the skin. As the various peoples in their various parts of the planet evolved, so did the Africans who remained in AFrica/Sub-Sahara Africa. Just think about it, and if you have any doubts, start taking Biology Classes, Genetic Classes, and Evolution classes. You’ll get more out of it and you’ll understand science better than before, and you’ll most likely learn to make your own hypothesis rather than to blindly use someone else’s hypotheses and theories.
Lastly, just because some images of modern day Africans look Asian or Chinese does not mean that one group of people gave rise to the other. You would have to find the person in the picture, take his DNA, and compare it with the DNA of Modern Africans and Asians/Chinese.
Remember, Science is objective, not Subjective. Something that appears like something else does mean crud unless forensic tests and scientific method has been applied to it.
First Mysteryman, I do not think you originated from Africa. Some did but not everyone.
Second, DNA mutation is not the same thing as evolution. Y DNA mutation is just a sex gene marker and is not determinative of phenotype.
Third, you are rambling and fumbling with notions you barely understand. The early Europeans were black people that looked like Africans. Go and study instead of sounding like some retard.
Fourth, Prof Jin Li a noted chinese geneticist has demonstrated that early chinese were Africans. You have no qualification or expertise whatsoever to take on the researched peer-reviewed work of a famous scientist. You would be a fool to attempt to refute Prof Jin Li with your incomplete understanding of history, genetics and evolution.
Again you should go spend some study time and learn something real instead of sounding off like some demented inmate of an assylum.
Jahdey
Mystery Man
As graduate of Biochemistry, I dont wish to impress you but I do wish to impress upon you that your statement is scientifically incorrect.
Ethnicities are not a seoperate species, there is no potential difference between the races medically all over the world we use the same medical processes, and history has taught us several times that culture is not a basis for inhibiting the movements between peoples.
Phenotype is not genotype, how you look is a localised expression of genes selected in order to protect from the Sun.. . There has been no “evolving” away from the African phenotype, that is nonsense else using your obscure logic, we could say redheads are a race.
Race is actually a social construct and not a scientifically deduced categorisation for Man, as such any deductions based upon that premise will themselves be easily undermined, as is the case therefore with your overly simplistic and rather ignorant rant.
You then make attempt to disprove a ridiculously proferred link between the people of Africa Today and the ancient Chines and Europeans , but the truth is that all populations of the world have and are mixed. and even 800 years ago if you do the maths every human being was cumulatively a component of 67m people. Clearly then it is unlikely given the number that any individual on earth is a pure anything, its actually mathematically impossible.
Legitimate websites absolutely do not proffer notions of any “Evolution away” to do so is to remain naive to the process of genetic distribution. Nature has an excellent way of enabling adjustments to the environment. DNA damage and cancer are big enough reasons to enable selectivity of any random phenotype. A lack of sunlight and restricted diet meant vitamin D production for bone development amongst other associated issues drove the need to lighten the skin and enable better light absorbtion required for Vitmain D production. None of these process were linked to other issues promoting changes. These are localised adaptations, not evolutionary forks in the path of humanity.
hey dude as a grad of bio chem. ur an idiot all nations of the human family come from black people european’s asian’s and arab’s are all descendants of the original black people of the planet earth…to put it plain and simple, white’s asian’s and arab’s are basically nations of cross bred albinos that relocated from a warm climate to a tolerable invironment…this has nothing to do with evolution you ill educated sun of a unowut a black man and woman can give birth to a blond haired blue eyed thin blooded weak boned you get the picture white (albino)child in nine months from this very moment… now it would take time to create a nation of albinos but i’ll have you know mr.bio/chem major our planet is much much older than your books have told you,tan,yellow,red,brown etc. are shades of black…black is the root of creation you can not have any other color with out having black first mix all colors together you get black and that’s as elementary as i can put it all nations of the human family are definitley the offspring planet earths original black people blacks carry every facial structure,hair texture,skin tone, etc. known to man thats why to this day the black people still love you even though you do not love them
I love you know the truth about white skin,snow white or white as snow is not a mythological white lie 2kings5 white skin conception,clue mystery solve. NEXT!!
Wow, you must be a master geneticist. I must take off my hat and bow to an eccentric, illogical, arrogant, and delusional Afro-Centrist, who, like the rest of your kind, has a tendency to manipulate the words of other people and miscontrue the meaning of words that you don’t understand.
I happen to be a medical student, studying at an accredited United States Medical College. I know a bit more about genetics than you. Further, I actually understand scientific writing. If you read my earlier post, you would realize that I wrote that all people originate from Africa from about 50,000~100,000 years ago. That next thing I mentioned is consistent with what Dr. Jin-Li said in his paper. Further, he mentions that 100,000 years ago, Africans migrated out of it to areas of Europe and Asia. Since we are on the topic of China, I am going to recapitulate what I said earlier. Some of these migrants arrived in China and settled down. Around 10,000 years ago, DNA mutations occurred. As a result, the inhabitants of China began to change their phenotype due to the non-fatal DNA mutations. Eventually, because the groups of people lived within marrying distance, these DNA mutations or genes, if you will, were easily perpetuated within the region of modern day China. Modern day Chinese look more like these people with the new mutations than their original African counterparts. Apparently, if you actually took the time to read my post closely and react like an animal, you will realize that my post actually has validity. Further, if you took the time to read legitimate scientific literature carefully, interpret them, and understand them, you will realize there is more logic in this hypothesis than anything that your Centrist colleagues have expressed. In fact, the notion that people migrated out of AFrica, settled into their respective regions of the planet, and continued to evolve into the people we see as we do now is more rational and more accepted in fields of anthropology, biology, human evolution, and genetics than your foolish belief that BLACK Africans (like the ones we see today in Sub-Sahara Africa) were the people to give rise to the Chinese Civilization (from the time of the Xia, Shang, etc.).
Just as a side note, Evolution relies on DNA mutations. You like to denigrate me, yet, you are the one with limited knowledge and an inflated Ego. You mention that Evolution and DNA mutations are not related. But if you actually studied SCIENCE, Not AFROCENTRIC PSEUDOSCIENCE, you will realize that Evolution relies on DNA mutations for it to occur. The DNA mutations, which occurs in the genes, must be non-fata and passed onto consecutive generations. That alone, is one way of how evolution works. Apparently, you do not and probably cannot understand how biology, genetics, and evolution work.
You take subjective opinions and other people’s hypotheses and either feed off of them, or you manipulate what’s been said to make it appear to support your bogus ideas. I am not going to reply to anything else you say, JAHDEY, because you just don’t have the intelligence to understand anything related to science and the scientific method. Keep reading your Centric papers, and keep believing that you know something when in reality, you don’t.
Exactiy mystery man, you talk about yourself and your kind. Something we call pojection in psychiatry. You are a liar and created to lie. Lie as much as you can and as long as you can . We do understand your need
Pathetic… your need to lie about your qualification tells us everything we need to know about you. The quality of your English and the stupidity of your Far Right ideas and notions is embarrassing because clearly with those views you are Caucasian. Please just hide away and read… its not an insult or a direction, just some help man…
Mysteryman Pseudo-medical student
You are not a medical student cause you just committed an unforgivable faux pas.
Y-DNA mutations do not affect the phenotypes of the bearers. To have that come out of your mind, tells me you either have no mind at all, or your mind power is very weak.
That unforgivable mistake demonstrates that you are not even a high school student of science not to talk of Med School. You are a pink punk that hangs desperately on discredited so-called white supremacy theory for self-validation.
I will ignore the rest of your demented babbling as I give you some real history.
So your little unschooled mind told you that Chinese of today “evolved” from Africans of yesterday? Well my dear fool, read this article from a Taiwanese Newspaper about the little African (your so-called Blacks) people that civilized the Mongol hordes. This was written by Chinese for Chinese in Taiwan-China:
Published on TaipeiTimes
http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/feat/archives/2004/11/27/2003212815
In honor of the Little Black People
The Saisiyat tribe of Hsinchu and Miaoli will perform a solemn rite this weekend to commemorate a race of people that they exterminated
By Jules Quartly
STAFF REPORTER
Saturday, Nov 27, 2004,Page 16
Xiangtian Lake is one of two places to see the ritual. Drinking, singing and dancing are expected to take place deep in the mountains of Miaoli and Hsinchu when the “Ritual of the Little Black People” is performed by the Saisiyat tribe once again this weekend.
For the past 100 years or so, the Saisiyat tribe has performed the songs and rites of the festival to bring good harvests, ward off bad luck and keep alive the spirit of a race of people who are said to have preceded all others in Taiwan.
In fact, the short, black men the festival celebrates are one of the most ancient types of modern humans on this planet and their kin still survive in Asia today. They are said to be diminutive Africoids and are variously called Pygmies, Negritos and Aeta. They are found in the Philippines, northern Malaysia, Thailand, Sumatra in Indonesia and other places.
Chinese historians called them “black dwarfs” in the Three Kingdoms period (AD 220 to AD 280) and they were still to be found in China during the Qing dynasty (1644 to 1911). In Taiwan they were called the “Little Black People” and, apart from being diminutive, they were also said to be broad-nosed and dark-skinned with curly hair.
After the Little Black People — and well before waves of Han migrations after 1600 — came the Aboriginal tribes, who are part of the Austronesian race. They are thought to have come from the Malay Archipelago 6,000 years ago at the earliest and around 1,000 years ago at the latest, though theories on Aborigine migration to Taiwan are still hotly debated. Gradually the Little Black People became scarcer, until a point about 100 years ago, when there was just a small group living near the Saisiyat tribe. The story goes that the Little Black People taught the Saisiyat to farm by providing seeds and they used to party together.
“Tribal disputes later lead to warfare”. The Saisiyat killed off by the little Black People over time. Just two Little Black People survived. Before departing eastward, they taught the Saisiyat about their culture and passed down some of their songs, saying if they did not remember their people they would be cursed and their crops would fail.
The Saisiyat kept their promise and have held the Ritual of the Little Black People every year, though they scaled down the ceremonies during the Japanese colonial period (1895 to 1945). Now the ritual is held every two years on the 10th full moon of the lunar calendar, with a big festival once every 10 years. At this time, the Saisiyat are not supposed to fight and they congregate in their ancestral areas of Miaoli and Hsinchu, in the mountains.
“I’ve seen it written of as a celebration, but to me it seemed quite a mournful affair, especially in the way the music came across, which was trancelike, a haunting kind of chant with a series of 10 to 15 songs,” said long-term Taiwan resident Lynn Miles, who has been to the ritual three times and will be going again this year.
“There’s nothing else quite like it in its tone and in its mood. I’ve been to other festivals but this is non-stop.”
Miles said the dances were not set pieces but usually involved holding hands and moving around in a circle, chanting, with those who know the songs doing most of the singing and a shaman figure keeping order.
A spokeswoman at the Council of Indigenous Peoples (under the Executive Yuan) said that those who have “unclean thoughts” have their souls snatched by the spirits of the Little Black People and will pass out until the shaman revives them.
Miles said the shaman seemed to serve a public-order function by chasing off those who were too drunk or out of order.
The ceremonies are held in two places. The ritual began yesterday in Nanchuang Township, Miaoli County, and will carry on there until Monday. Rituals start today in Wufeng Township, Hsinchu County, and will last through tomorrow.
Getting there:
To Wufeng:
Route 122 to Wufeng can be accessed off No. 1 Highway near Toufen.
To Nanchuang:
Take western No. 1 Highway. Near Toufen, take Route 124 toward Sanwan to Nanchuang. Shuttle buses will take visitors to the ritual site at Xiangtian Lake.
Y-DNA mutation does not affect phenotype. Any high school student of biology would explain that to you. But that is way above your illiterate mind.
MYSTERY MAN
REMAIN A MYSTERY, BECAUSE WITH ALL THAT TEXT BOOK CRAP WE ARE STILL HAVING ALL THESE ENDLESS DISEASE DUE TO LIE OF MODERN SCIENCE AND THEIR LACK OF KNOWLEDGE OF TRUTH AND HONOURING AND RESPECTING THE FOUNDATION THAT WAS ALREADY SET BY THE INDIGENOUS PEOPLE.
IN THEIR FANTASY THE TRIED TO RECREATE WHAT WAS ALREADY PERFECT AND DESTROYED LIVES, NATURE AND THEMSELVES. LOOK AT THE CONDITION THE EARTH IS IN DUE TO DECEPTION OF A SET OF PEOPLE WHO WANTS POWER AND DO NOT HAVE WHAT IT TAKES TO CREATE OR MAINTAIN IT NATURALLY,
THE ANCIENT KHAMITES(EGYPTIANS) RESPECTED NATURE AND DID NOT DESTROY THE LAND BECAUSE THEY KNEW THEY ARE ONE WITH THE EARTH AND TO DESTROY THE EARTH IS TO LITERALLY DESTROY YOURSELF.
ALL THE KNOWLEDGE OF MODERN SCIENCE PROVEN OVER AND OVER AGAIN LEADS BACK TO THE EGYPTIANS. I MEAN THE FOUNDATION UPON WHICH IT WAS BUILT WAS BORROWED FROM THEM BUT TWISTED TO REFLECT EVIL AND DESTRUCTION IN EVERWAY. LOOK AT THE CRISIS THE WORLD IS IN DUE TO A SET OF PEOPLE WHO WANT TO LEAD AND DON’T HAVE THE (KA) TO DO SO.
JAHDEY DON’T WASTE YOUR TIME RESPONDING TO PEOPLE LIKE MYSTERY MAN, PLEASE USE DIVINE DIPLOMACY YOU ARE INTELLIGENT BROTHER.
JUST DIRECT THEM TO THE LIGHT JAHDEY…..
HOTEP, SHALOM, IRIE
Although I said I wouldn’t reply, I think I should. I did not mention anything about the Y chromosome. And for your information, the Y Chromosome does influence phenotype. Do you even know what a Phenotype is? It is obvious that you don’t know genetics. The Y-Chromosome is responsible for testosterone and male characteristics. READ, Just READ. Don’t just read my post, but read a genetics book. And second, so what if there were Pygmies in Asia? Were they responsible for creating the Chinese Culture, language, and civilzation from about 3000 BCE to the present? No. Could they have contributed something to Chinese Culture and Civilization? Maybe.
Now, I got better things to do than argue with an foolish Centrist who, being the arrogant fool, pretends he knows something, disparages intellectual remarks, and claims to know many things about evolution, anthropology, and science. Keep spreading your illogical propaganda, and you will ensure that your kind will remain ignorant.
Myserable man
I gave you a hard lesson, but you remain ungrateful like the ignorant wretch that you are. Now listen up for more teachings:
1. Y-DNA chromosome does not influence human phenotype.
2. There were Black Chinese in China, including the Sasiyat tribes, and the Shang Dynasty.
3. Afro-centric perspective is simply viewing life from an African centered angle. It is pushing the limits of the HIS-story and moving the discourse to OUR-story.
4. Afro-centric view of life has disclosed amazing truths about the achievement and legacies of Black people the world over. It is a good way to view life.
5. You are a not a medical student, and I caught you pants down with that limp lie.
6. Dont come and fool around Rastalivewire when you have not studied your facts. It is electric here…and we shock!
Take care
Jahdey
Hi, I read many posts here. It is rather, interesting, the website.
Your comments on the origins of mankind was reinforcing but a bit redundant because everyone knows that humans came from Africa. But the thing that gets me is that this website of yours uses “ambiguous terms”. When you say Europeans, you should mention the Original Europeans or Original Asians. Further you should also make it known that modern Europeans and modern Asians came from Africa because of numerous amount of similar base sequences found in modern Europeans, Asians, and Africans compared to the “original” people in Africa.
Another point I would like to add is that the website makes it seem that each civilization was founded by Black Africans. This is somewhat untrue. When Europeans and Asians made their civilazations throughout Europe and Asia, the people have developed lighter skin and facial features different from both the “original” Africans and modern day Africans. As the Europeans and Asians back then created their civilizations, the Africans who were evolving in Africa were also creating their unique civilizations throughout Africa. I believe on are that is overlooked and “undiscovered” is Sudan and other areas of East Africa.
Second in regards to Mystern Man, he has some ring of truth, because it is known that Dark Skinned Africans left Africa 100,000 to about 150,000 years ago and settled in different parts of the world. Then, the people evolved and became more advanced. Simultaneously, the Africans who remained in Africa kept their complexion and evolved into more advanced humans too.
I don’t know what you were discussing, but the little black dwarves were a series of hunter and gatherers who made contact to the higher evolved humans in Africa, Asia, and Europe. Although they can be considered Black People, they are genetically different from the Black Africans from 100,000 years ago and from modern day Africans. But they are Black and did also come from Africa, but calling them Black Africans may be a misnomer. It is like calling Europeans or Asians who hundreds of thousands of years ago Black Africans too.
in reply to MCLEAN
…you need to do more studying, your information is off. Please read over what you submitted. All civilization were influnenced by the knowledge of the original parent people upon the planet(afrikans). Do you know who are the original europeans and Asian?
I’m black with only a g.e.d. not a phd. You caucasians call black science fantacy.Yet you claim KEMMET (egypt)is your you invention even though you caucasions can’t even stand to be in the sun without the aid of some serious sun block ! Yet you claimed to have built,designed and walked around in 100 degree weather for thousands of years with no shirts.And you put that in all your text books as “FACT”!!! Fantacy well when the dogon tribe in west africa told the world that their was a star called siris 4,000 light years away with a small “B” planet circling it every 50 years and also a even smaller”C” planet .Now your top scientist from NASA has confirm it is true!! The scientific establishment was in such shock that the caucasion across the board establisment has agreed to keep it quiet!Your “top notch” science departments are secretly using ancient black sciense as a template ! To rediscover what black people already knew thousands of years ago and take the credit! Listen your natural environment is in the caucus mountains of asia (caucasian)where there is absolutly no signs of advance civilization what so ever!NONE!We blacks know the Piramids is accually tens of thousands of years older than what you (caucasions )claim.But every Knows that you were not around then so you moved the age to only 3,500 years to move it into your time frame so you can again claim credit.But as technology uncover all your hoaxes!More and more the world will see who’s science is fantasy!!!
all this back and forth over nonsense
Africa (eden)
just face it we are all the children of mother Africa and our beautiful mother is black. no matter how we look now the human race evolved from a negroid people. ancient civilizations were founded by negroids, Black Africans.
mystery man makes the most sense. Black people that originated from Africa did NOT look like the Black people today (The skulls are just way off). People did come FROM AFrica, but and migrated around the world, but like all Creatures, mutations caused these AFRICANS to turn into the current races of today depending on the region. The many cultures were developed by these people who moved away from their African roots and became the chinese culture, European culture and Aboriginal Cultures. That is why the world is so diverse and it isn’t ruled by one culture, one race, or one nation.
The original man may have originated from Africa, but modern man and it’s achievements originated from their own distinct evolution and creative cultures.
this theory does not go against Prof Jin Li, yet explains and helps show the single origin theory while making sense with modern Science and studies.
i need to know what this is and thank you
Lying Pink face, your time is up.
These africans make me laugh..
You people resort to insults and the repition of false information for what?
Some sort of recognition for every sucessful civilization because what, yours it at best disgraceful? …
The very fact that each and every one of you are speaking fluent English and not Native african toung is the very example needed to show you that the white man, actually any race of man, is supreme… I’m not even white, I’m from southern Italy, from an island called Sicily; which unfortunantly was ravaged by the animals know as Arabs and Africans… Thus leaving me, well, not white… Sadly enough…
To extend on some points, EVELOTION is only possible through necessity… Mutations are Intended to happen, The genes (Mutated ones) that survive through sucession become dominant, thus “Evolving” us…
Too say the Africans of the Ancient world were even remotly similar to the ones we see today is to say that they have not yet evolved, and are thus inferior? Hey, wait, with the intellect of these Centric African-naughtos, I can actually believe that…
Further more, a Theory is just a threory… And Anthropological ones are proved and disproved all the time.. For heavens sake some Shakespearian Verses, created only about 400 years ago, aren’t even full understood and meanings are debated about…
Proceeding along, since evidence indicated Life as Homo sapiens orginating in Africa, I am inclined to believe so, but don’t be surprised when new evidence comes to light to disprove any of that…. Regardless, Man evolved out of their homosapien form in those countries, becomming what they are, just as the homosapiens that were orginally in Africa became what we know as Africans….. Thus AFRICANS never created European or Asain Culture, YOU FUCKTARDS YOUR ALL DUMB ASSES FOR THINKING ANY DIFFERENTLY just accept that we’re all more or less the same, but our Homosapien ancestors were the sharper tools in the shed and made reputable Civiliaztions, Much unlike the ones found in AFRICA
VOLATILE…YOUR ARE VOLATILE BUT NOT KNOWLEDGEABLE WHICH CAN BE VERY VAOLATILE AND DANGEROUS TO SOCIETY. YOU NEED TO GET AN UNDERSTANDING OF TRUTH. LOOK UP A VIDEO DOCUMENTARY THAT WAS ON CNN CALLED IN SEARCH OF ADAM AND LET THIS BE A STARTER FOR YOU.
THEN GO TO A WEBSITE CALLED thefreemaninstitute.com( THIS SITE IS TOTALLY DONE BY A JEWISH PROFESSOR IN THE U.S.
IT’S IS A EUROPEAN CONCEPT THAT STATED MAN ORIGINATED FROM HOMOSAPIENS, THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN WE ARE COMING FROM A WOMAN’S WOMB WHAT HAPPENED. THIS HOMOSAPIENS THEORY IS A THEORY AS IT STATES BECAUSE THEY DIDN’T UNDERSTAND AND THEY WERE VERY ENVIOUS AND JEALOUS FOR POWER. THAT THEY CREATED THIS AND IN DOING SO TRIED TO WIPE OUT THE PARENT PEOPLE ON THE FACE OF THIS PLANET BY CHANGING OR FALSIFYING HISTORY, LIES,LIES DISEASE, DESTRUCTION OF THEIR CULTURE AND REPLACING IT WITH THEM INSTEAD. ACTUALLY IT’S THEIR HISTORY NOT THAT OF CREATION OR TRUTH. CAUCASIANS ARE FROM THE CAUCUS MOUNTAINS WHERE THEY LIVED AND REIGN IN CAVES THAT IS A FACT OF YOUR HISTORY.
PLEASE READ THE BOOK CALLED “THE CHOSEN PEOPLE OF THE CAUCUS”.
PLEASE CHECK OUT “DR. LEN HOROWITZ” (drhorowitz.com) HE IS JEWISH BUT TELLS THE TRUTH LIKE IT IS AN EXCELLENT AND BEAUTIFUL MAN – A PROFESSOR FROM THE US. PLEASE IN TIMES LIKE THIS YOU MUST KNOW TRUTH. I KNOW HIM PERSONALLY. PURCHASE AND READ HIS MATERIALS AS WELL. ALIGN YOURSELF WITH TRUTH NOT SWEAR WORDS. IT’S NOT YOUR FAULT THAT YOU INHERITED A LIE BUT SEEK TRUTH IT CAN CURE ALL.
ALL I HAVE QUOTED YOU TO SOURCE ARE WRITTEN BY REPUTABLE EUROPEANS WHOM TELL TRUTH AND DID THEIR RESEARCH.
I CAN QUOTE AND DIRECT YOU TO ENDLESS FACTS AND TRUTH WRITTEN BY YOUR OWN AND EVEN PEOPLE OF AFRICAN, CHINESE, AND OTHER NATIONALITY BACKING WHAT JAHDEY IS SAYING. IT IS TRUTH I T DOES HURT BUT TO SEE YOU RESORT TO SWEARING , IS DEGRADING YOUR INTELLEGENCE . READING WHAT YOU WROTE I CAN SEE YOU LACK LIGHT AND TRUTH. ALL THINGS HAVE A SOURCE THE ORIGINAL PEOPLE ON THIS PLANET WERE THE AFRIKANS (STATED OVER AND OVER AGAIN) LIKE IT OR LUMP IT WE GAVE RISE TO YOU AND EVERY BODY ELSE. HOW ? THIS YOU SHOULD FIND OUT SINCE IT IS IN THE BIBLE – THAT’S WHAT’S LEPROSY REALLY WAS BUT THE NATURE OF THE LIAR HAS SWITCH NAMES OF EVERYTHING TO MISLEAD PEOPLE. READ THROUGHOUT THE BIBLE WHEN A CURSE WAS PUT ON PEOPLE THEY WERE MADE “WHITE AS SNOW” THIS IS HISTORY AND FACTS YOU ARE A MUTATION. PLEASE DO SOME THOROUGH HOMEWORK AND FIND OUT THE TRUTH. THERE IS A SHIFT HAPPENING 2012 IT IS A SHIFT BACK TO TRUTH AND CONCIOUSNESS THE END OF “TRUTH ILLITERACY”.
SHAKESPEARES VERSES ARE NOT UNDERSTOOD DUE TO ILLITERACY AND THE CREATION OF WHAT IS KNOWN AS THE ENGLISH(DEMONIC)LANGUAGE. THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE IS NEW AND THE LANGUAGE WHICH IT CAME FROM IS MOSTLY GERMAN MIXED WITH OTHERS BUT DO SOME RESEARCH. ANTHROPOLOGY IS PROVED AND DISPROVED DUE TO INCONSISTENCY AND STRAYING FROM TRUTH AND THE INDIVIDUALS DOING THESE UNNECESSARY RESEARCH. ALL THAT WAS NEED TO MAINTAIN THE EARTH IN HARMONY WITHOUT DISEASE, DESTRUCTION TO THE LAND WAS ALREADY IN PLACE BUT ONE SET OF PEOPLE WANT TO RECREATE EVERYTHING DUE TO ENVY THROUGH THEIR OWN EYES BUT THEY LACK LIGHT MELANIN, PINEAL GLAND – THAT ‘ S FULLY FUNCTIONING NOT CALCIFIED. THE PINEAL GLAND NEEDS MELANIN TO FUNCTION OPTIMALLY THAT’S WHY THE DOGON TRIBE OF MALI CAN SEE AND CHART AS THEY DO WITHOUT MODERN TECHNOLOGY. THAT’S WHY EGYPT COMPLETELY FELL, SINCE IT WAS INVADED BY GREEKS/ROMANS(SAME PEOPLE) THEY DIDN’T POSSESS THE CAPABILITY TO PUT FORWARD THE CREATIONS LIKE THE INDIGENOUS AFRIKANS. EVEN WITH THE STOLEN LEGACY AND MASS AMOUNT OF INFORMATION THEY COULD NOT CREATE INSTEAD THEY RECREATE (EVOLUTION) AND DESSIMATE THE PLANET. LOOK AT THE EARTH AND THE STATE THAT IT IS IN. DON’T GET ME WRONG I WORK WITH EVERYONE , BUT THE EUROPEANS THAT I KNOW PERSONALLY KNOW TRUTH AND SOME VOICE IT THAT THEIR ANCESTORS HAVE DONE WRONG………………..GREAT EVIL TO DESTROY AND CONTROL THE WORLD WITH LIES.
VOLATILE IT IS WRITTEN AND SAID IN THE BEGINNING SO SHALL IT BE IN THE END. THE EARTH WILL BE RETURNED TO IT’S RIGHT FUL OWNERS WHOM SHARE EVERYTHING AND DON’T HAVE RACISM, SLAVERY, SEPARATISM. SINCE THE EUROPEANS HAVE BEEN IN CONTROL THROUGH LIES, EVIL, STEALING LAND ETC. THERE HAS BEEN NO CREATION. TO CREATE IS TO BE IN ALIGNMENT WITH NATURE AND NOT TO DO ANYTHING TO DESTROY WHILE PUTTING FORWARD WHAT YOU ARE CREATING . THE ANCIENT EGYPTIANS AND INDIGENOUS PEOPLE KNEW THIS PRINCIPLE. LOOK AT THE SIDE EFFECT OF THE DRUGS, FOODS, FACTORIES, MISUSE OF FARM LANDS WITH FERTILIZERS WHICH HELP TO WIPE OUT AND DESTROY LANDS THROUGHOUT THE WORLD.
THIS IS WHAT THEY MEAN BY ANTICHRIST (ANTI NATURE) AND WHO IS DOING AND TEACHING OTHER CULTURE THESE NEGATIVES.?
LOOK AT THE HISTORY OF THE VATICAN(CHURCH ) WITH HOMOSEXUALITY IT’S NOT NEW IT’S A NATURAL OCCURENCE IN THEIR HISTORY AND CULTURE THAT ANYWHERE THEY WENT THEYCOMMITED THESE ACTS AND WORST. THE NATIVE OR INDIGENOUS INDIANS THEY SODOMIZED THEIR LITTLE BOYS BY THE NUMBERS AND RAPED THEIR GIRLS, LET’S NOT TALK ABOUT SLAVERY.
I AM SORRY BUT THE EUROPEAN HISTORY IS ONE OF GREAT SHAME AND ABOMINATION THEY HAVE TRAVELED THE WORLD AND BROUGHT DEATH, DESTRUCTION AND DISEASE BUT THERE ARE GENUINE EUROPEANS WHO ARE DOING EXCELLENT WORK TO HELP CORRECT SOME OF THE DAMAGE THAT WAS DONE THESE ARE MY FRIENDS. ANYWHERE THERE ARE PEOPLE SPEAKING TRUTH AND DOING TRUTH TO HELP EVERYONE I AM THERE AS WELL
Your age is absolutely about right for the stupidity and shallow approach you have to genetics and scientific understanding. PS I am a biochemist, and your racist rant has not impressed anyone. sorry. Im guessing your American? (not a rhetorical question.
OH, I forgot to Mention… I am sorry If my grammar and spelling is off, I just learned english about a year and a half ago….
I’m taking Advanced Studies in Biology , and am Only 15….
I love how full aged Centric debators don’t even have to ability to argue to a 15 year old thats new to English…. I know you can’t sucessfully mount an apropreate rebuttle because everything I am saying is correct… Remember, I have some Biology under my belt, all you have is Overwhelming racist thoughts
Congratultions Volatile, if you are truly 15 you just showed that there won’t be any futures for you in the field of science , by the way excuse my lack of in-depth knowledge of biology, I am only eight years old and will be taking my lessons in biology in two years , maybe then I Debate u on anthropology Mr Retardo
Evolution is subject to enviroment . I Have been aware of China’s veiws for many years and it was worthy of investigation . Please Try to remember no matter how frustrated debate may become , Science is flawed in many ways and it your responsabilaty to try and bring together the feilds you study to the furtherment of understanding .That is the goal of any scientist . Oh and also try and have fun .
These are classic examples of institutionalized white supremacy. The whole education system is distorted by these absurd ideas of “evolution” through mutation. Mutation is the method we use to ADAPT to the environment. Adaptation is what its called. Black & Brown wide nosed & not so wide nosed “Africans” ventured all across this globe..long before it was rename “Africa” & long long b4 there was ANY literature, language, nor culture of anything “European” or “Arab”. Were talking ThOUSANDS upond Thousands of years before. Black men brought culture, language, mathematics, art, & science to Asian (research Black Shang dynasty, pyramids in Asia also) India (they still have black tribes there) North & South America..look at the gigantic Olmec heads and research the Olmec civilization (2500bc) here in America if you are ignorant to these facts….the facial features and culture of these civilizations are indisputably Black “negroid” features. We do all understand though that if everyone made love upon this great planet those closed minded pink people would naturally disappear. Its biology..Nature..its not my fault.
So when speaking on mutations and “evolution” & dominant genes. We need only look at nature. The sun burns the recessive gene. The mutation that occurred was a degeneration. We see the degeneration in our world today. Wake up. We are just now able to unlock mysteries about the world that the ancients knew for EONS. When You research the Nile civilizations and the mathematics and astrology used to map the planet and solar system and when u study the medical procedures and mastery of the arts, high science and spirituality then perhaps you will become aware of the degenerative state we are currently in. Research Dr Francis Cress Welsing also if you need some psychological counseling. She will help you understand why the white mind lives in fear and feels a need to destroy, discredit, disrespect & deceive NATURE. The recessive genes fear of a black-brown -yellow planet..the hues of the world would be scary to the recessive! In many cases (not all)..some white minds are secure enough and “evolved” enough to transcend the lower self of capitalizing and embrace their roots to Africa while maintaining pride for their own contributions. Very few but some. The survival mechanisms kick in for most. I am happy to see the Hues of the planet come together. PyramidsNoon.com
There is something inaccurate about the opinions on this website. Just because Professor Jin Li mentions that the original Asians (we’ll use that instead of using the term Chinese) are Black Africans does not mean that Black Africans founded Chinese Civilization in the 2000-3000 BCE period. Remember, whatever human remains that was found and whatever DNA that was discovered turned out to be from 100,000 years ago when early people were migrating. Remember, itdoes not mean that 95,000 years later (in around 3000~2000 BCE) the descendants of this 100,000 year-old individual retained his/her genetic make-up.
Things change over time, and one of theme is DNA. Eventually, the descendants from back then developed changes to give distinct Asian phenotype. Think about it. If you consider that the East AFricans have “Chinese/Asian” appearances, it would be safe to say that quite possibly, East Africans were Proto-Asians who came out of East Africa, settled, lost their darker complexion over the 95,000 years, and became the Asians.
Remember, I am not trying to belittle or start an argument, but 95,000~100,000 years is a long time and genetic changes do occur. Second, I don’t deny that everybody came out of Africa, but when people get farther away from their original populations (like in Africa), genes that are were not prevalent nor existent at that time will spread within groups of people who have migrated to other areas of the world. Further, these genes -whether they be an old gene or a new one that underwent genetic mutation – will be passed down within that group of people in their respective part of the world. This latter portion of my post indicates that humans eventually become modern Caucasian, modern Asians, etc. They lost their original Africa phenotypes and inhertied their modern-day looking ones. The people who remained in Africa 100,000 years ago developed too but retained their darker complexions.
As for the using ancient manuscripts, remember, you can’t take it literally nor use modern-day meaning and modern-day philosophy to interpret what those ancient manuscripts said. For instance, when it said “black headed” people, you must remember one word in Chinese for “black/dark” as in Dark Head. It could mean that the people had dark hair or dark heads from a tan. It’s like saying that the Huang Di which means Yellow Emperor was “Yellow” because of his complexion of his skin and hence was an Asian person with yellow skin ruling the “dark headed” people and providing them with a source for civilization.
Anyway, I may post more later. I am a little tired at the moment. I’m not the original mystery man who posted earlier, although those posts by him had some rationale.
why is it hard for a european to fathom or believe that the african civilization is the foundation of arts,medicine,language,mathematics,etc. is it because of your racist ideology regarding people of afrikan ancestry, that makes it difficult to believe that afrikan civilization is that which asians and europeans had to emulate? civilaztions always build from the previous civilization. greece is not the origin of nothing. its simply a stolen legacy from the ancient afrikans. its no different than the european conception of jesus, which is heru from kemet(egypt). the europeans were still in the dark ages when afrikans were manifesting genuis and greatness. afrikans civilized europeans in the arts, and sciences.
the all, perhaps it is because “whites are taught and feel pride with the assumption they pioneered world civilization. Based on “look” White and Mongul accomplishments worldwide are treated as a monolithic whole. Credit is quick to be taken by Caucasian academics, educators, historians, and white extremists for civilization in earliest India (called Indo-European), Mesopotamia, Egypt, Anatolia, Greece, and Rome as accomplishments of their race.”
The epicanthic folds that results in the “slanted eye”appearance isn’t restricted to orientals some people from the Congo Basin,Sudan,Kenya,Senegal,& Mali have the
epicanthic fold.Some europeans in north europe-asia have them also.(Irish & Laplanders).What about the flat noses of central asians?The Black-African phenotype
is the first type of people from which all others came from.Why is that so difficult
for yellow,white,& stigmatised,self- hating,”colored folks”to deal with?
Even some people in Southern Afrika have slanted / chinese eyes.
The San , Basarwa People of South Afrika, Botswana and Namibia.
You even find Swazis and Sotho’s with chinese like features
i.e. slanted eyes and flat between the eyes.
I also note that Chinese, Indians and Japanese have the same shape of the head like many West Africans especially Nigerians.
I also read somewhere that original inhabitants of this planet interbred with the NEFILIM (Aliens) who are also mentioned in the Bible/Old testament.
By the way, that quote was by Marc Washington from the /www.beforebc.de site. Thank you.
Have u read about the moors and how they rulled the southern parts of europe? they weren’t arabs. they were black. and also in the olmecs. are u, Mystry man, also not considering the posibilities black people not having a single involvement in ancient China?
I have gathered nothing from all I have read so far apart from people expressing racists feelings from both ends. But what I am sure about is that my race (white) will be a minority three hundred years from now. People will be all mixed like my children who have a black mum. My advice to all who want to stick to their race is to prevent their ladies from intermarrying; one way is by stopping communication and migration from place to place. How possible is this ? Does someone here have an idea ?
I’m sure a top geneticist (unlike Dr. Zahi Hawass) knows what he’s doing. Professor Jin Li wanted the Chinese to evolve from homo-erectus, but he had the decency to accept that the modern Chinese man evolved from West Africans, and even insisted that all humankind originated in Africa.
The white men were savages raw meat eaters they lived in caves the blacks civilized all race the fact that the world owes alot to africa. Hannibal he was the first ruler of rome a black man. The moors ruled europe/ moors-black men/ the original greeks were black and all the men of the bible the original hebrews was black. the first knights and kings of europe was black. The fact that the whites know this and they hate the truth so the vaticans and other euro white supremacy tried to destroy all the ORIGINAL artwork and statues of the black man ruling europe and asia but GOD knows the truth so we are living in the apocalipse witch.mean revealing of the truth
Um this study might be a bit out dated because recent findings in DNA show that all non African ethnic groups are part Neanderthal (ancient human similar to homo sapiens). Asian and European’s are descend from a hybrid of Interbreeding between humans and Neanderthals may have given Europeans and Asians resistance to northern diseases that their African ancestors didn’t have. This took place around 30,000 years ago before the traveling groups reached different parts of Asia and Europe.
Theorist pointed out that Neanderthal DNA might have granted advantages that benefited the health and survival of the modern humans in other geography, according to the studies and theories of researchers.
Addition,
Prof Jin Li research points out the OUT OF AFRICA theory, that ALL humans originated in Africa and migrated outside over hundreds of thousands of years ago, not that black Africans were ruling China. If you read his article you would see he states Chinese genetically cluster close to east Asians and southeast Asian types, not black Africans.
“According to the newspaper article, it has been proven that the 65 branches of the Chinese race share similar DNA mutations with the peoples of East and Southeast Asia.”
Last question:
Do you think Africa belongs to man or man belongs to Africa? Did Africa existed before man? Africa in terms of science is just a tropic environment suitable for evolution of man. Africa in terms of science does not hold any racial value because race is a social construct.
HEY GUYS! HOW DO WE KNOW FOR CERTAIN THAT ANY OF THE (FEW) FOSSILS OF EARLY AFRICANS, WERE ACTUALLY LOCAL HUMANS AND NOT THOSE WHO MIGRATED FROM ASIA? KNOW ONE CAN SAY EITHER WAY FOR CERTAINTY. ALSO THE DATING CLOCKS ARE ALL SUBJECT TO QUESTION SINCE ANY CONTAMINATION OF THE FOSSIL CAN GREATLY ALTER THE READING, ” WEVE FOUND A SCULL, ITS 3,OOO,000 YEARS OLD!” NOBODY QUESTIONS! WHY? BECAUSE IT ALL FITS IN WITH WHAT PEOPLE WANT TO BELIEVE. ALSO HAVE YOU NOTICED THAT THE BONES OF TOTENKARMUN HAVE BEEN RECENTLY BEEN ANALYSED AND THE SCIENTISTS HAVE ADMITTED THEY CANNOT DETERMINE WHETHER THE EGYPTIAN KING WAS BLACK, MIXED RACE OR WHAT. aND HE WAS ONLY A FEW THOUSAND YEARS OLD. COME ON PEOPLE, WHY SHOULD WE JUST ACCEPT WHAT, TEACHERS, PROFS, SCIENTISTS ARE TELLING US. USE YOUR OWN INTELLIGENCE. i BELIEVE FROM THE EVIDENCE OF HUMAN CULTURE THAT THE EARLIEST CIVILISATION ORIGINATED NOT IN AFRICA ( SORRY RICHARD LEAKEY) BUT WHERE WE FIND EVIDENCE OF THE FIRST WHEEL, STUDY OF ASTRONOMY, WRITING, E.T.C, YES IN MESOPOTAMIA FROM WHERE THE MIGRATION TO AFRICA AND ELSEWHERE TOOK PLACE. ALL THE STUDY OF FOSSILS, DNA E.T.C IS SUBJECT TO SPECULATION. I HAVE ALWAYS BELIEVED THAT THE TRUE SCIENTIFIC PROCEDURE IS TO LOOK WITH A TOTALLY OPEN MIND AT POSITIVE EVIDENCE AND DRAW A FACT BASED CONCLUSION, NOT MAKE THE WILD AND OFTEN PREMETURE CLAIMS MANY SCIENTISTS MAKE THAT RESULT IN OVERNIGHT MEDIA COVERAGE IN CONTRAST TO THE MINUTE EXPOSURE OF THEIR RELUCTANT ADMISSIONS…”OH, WE MAY….HAVE GOT THAT WRONG” PLEASE DONT REPLY IF YOU JUST WANT TO MAKE THIS PERSONAL, SWEAR, INSULT E.T.C. LETS JUST REASON, RESPECTFULLY!
I have read a lot of the readings of Africa. One thing, the word Africa were derived from two tribes that were on the coastline of the continent Africa on the side on the Mediterranean Sea. An Italian came down and combined the two tribes’ name together which naming the northern land, Africa. In which, the Italian explored downward and name the rest of the land Africa. So, my input to everyone, before the Italian named the continent Africa; it was just Black people because of their skin color. On the other note, I had researched that black tribes traveled like the Olmecs civilization. These were black people that travel down to South America. They traveled before the Mayans, which was not a original Black tribe to my knowledge, and any other tribes in South America. We are stuck on Africans are from Africa but we are only going off the information that white male europeans wrote. Which excluded a lot of valuable information about other races and cultures. Could we have common sense about everything? The many books that are written by Americans have to be approved on a certain panel that have to make sense to the panel. So, majority of books in colleges and schools are approved on a basis status. So, many great books that tells the truth about Black people’s culture and where they are really originated from are kept hidden from the public knowledge. Unless, they do some deep research and finds that information. Otherwise, nobody will make any effort to find the truth. I am not talking like a centrist or even taking nobody side but we have to realize that the Black history starts in America with the Atlantic Slave Trade. Before that period of time, Blacks did not have a history according to the early White Europeans.
To make my conclusion, I am asking a question: Where did the ancient original Black people come from?
Another note, look at the youtube video on the black chinese and there everyone will find a video about Chinese has a Black’s DNA in them. This video comes from a scientist’s interview. http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DL3IzMvBeOLk. (see what you think about the video)
A very interesting documentary to watch done by a european scientist called “The True Eve” tells how people migrated out of Africa eastward to southeast asia up and across the entire eurasian continent. Some split off at the southeast asian tip and headed to Australia and to the islands of the south pacific, the phillipines. Eurpean explorers noted seeing islanders with every spectrum of skin color living together. Being in the military I have seen all types of asians, figians, hawaiians with some nappy ass hair. I have even seen some white people with black features and nappy hair. Most people the world over have dark hair and brown and dark brown eyes with light to dark skin. We all come from africa but we can’t all call ourselves Africans because we are not those same africans of yesteryear. Americans tomorrow can’t say they are the americans of yesterday. It is because of our history and white lies and media that we can’t embrace the truth and eachother and are left reaching trying to claim and belong and be connected to something solid to say “I belong to something and I am somebody”. But true science using genetics and technology is bringing the lies to light.
Chris I like your last sentence.
Why the lies?
In Ganda culture a person who lies is considered a thief. A child who lies habitually is thought to be a potential thief. A thief is thought to be a potential rapist, and eventually a murderer.
Now look at the history of the world.
Do you get my drift?
The “evidence” is sufficient to formulate theories but there is nothing definitive that people migrating from Africa traveled to China and as someone aptly pointed out, any such migration occurred tens of thousands of years before the development of Chinese civilizatin. The first known Chinese dynasty, the Shang, did not leave any archeological remains proving they are direct descendants of Africans.