Ancient Black Chinese From East Africa — (by Prof Jin Li)


Chinese come from Africa, just like the rest of us

Posted: Thursday, May 12, 2005
CNA, HONG KONG

An international study has found that the Chinese people originated not from “Peking Man” in northern China, but from early humans in East Africa who moved through South Asia to China some 100,000 years ago, Hong Kong’s Ming Pao daily reported yesterday in a finding that confirms the “single origin” theory in anthropology.

According to the newspaper, a research team led by Jin Li (of Fudan University in Shanghai has found that modern humans evolved from a single origin, not multiple origins as some experts believe.

In China, school textbooks teach that the Chinese race evolved from “Peking Man,” based on a theory that humans in Europe and Asia evolved from local species.

But Jin and his fellow researchers found that early humans belonged to different species, of which only the East African species developed into modern humans.

This new finding nullifies the theory that the ancestors of the Chinese people were “Peking Man” who lived in northern China 400,000 years ago.

Based on DNA analyses of 100,000 samples gathered from around the world, a number of human families evolved in East Africa some 150,000 years ago, said Li Hui, a member of Jin’s team.

About 100,000 years ago, some of those humans began to leave Africa, with some people moving to China via South and Southeast Asia, Li said.

According to the newspaper article, it has been proven that the “65 branches of the Chinese race” share similar DNA mutations with the peoples of East and Southeast Asia.

It said that the Shanghai scientists were part of an international team comprised of researchers from Russia, India, Brazil and other nations in a five-year project studying the geographic and genealogical routes related to the spread and settlement of modern humans.

147 thoughts on “Ancient Black Chinese From East Africa — (by Prof Jin Li)”

  1. your ancestors are muurs thats what we said stupid is one who disrespects the womb thy come from iincluding u,,news flash pooh ,,nobody want to live in no damn china but u an ur i only study from oone angle argument u bring,,we dont leave it at thinking n be lieving so we know ,,its not hard to know a unless u make it by believng ,,we welcome u to return to learn n take ur brain out the funeral urn thats been burned by saturn,,china got muur rich when george bush pawned all birth certificate bonds as collateral for the sub prime mortgage notes created from the trust funds of the victims the homeowners ,,,didnt pay the loans/pawn back took the money an ran ..all of u can get ottta akebulan it needs not u but u need the mothend for the precious metal an elementss that run this planet,,,the word could not sustain itself without the exports of akebulan ,,noi broke down the numbr an how many the world needed daily years ago in harlem.the money is in africa gold diamonds off top an all else ,,car tires coca cola,de beers ,tiso corp ,,african land destroyed byplanting of peanuts planters ,how many euro a american companies suck out akebulan ,,china an akebulan should trade with each oher as they do cause they all come from one people before the patiarchy an the pregnant penis gods

  2. Winnie Wu, if its true you are Chinese you better guard your silly mouth and respect your elders. That is the way of Confucius no?
    Remember that thousands of Chinese are this very minute strewn all over Afrika. It is unprecedented. Many want to stay on forever, legally and by any other means. We hope out hospitality will be recipocrated in China and that you are just a little, insignificant abberation amongst your billion-plus.

    Silly. Give us facts. Critique your own fellow Chinese Professor who has stated facts of your Afrikan ancestry.

  3. The Han Chinese should live Tibet alone Winnie Wu what you say? Those high altitudes are not for you and the Tibetans are a peace-loving people too.

  4. Tinted prejudice in China
    By Gabrielle Jaffe, for CNN
    July 24, 2012 — Updated 0448 GMT (1248 HKT)

    American Kris Derban, who has lived in China for eight years, pictured at the 2008 Beijing Olympics.
    STORY HIGHLIGHTS
    Non-white foreigners living in China report more instances of prejudice
    African Americans report greater difficulty getting cabs, suspicions of criminal behavior
    Study: Chinese perceptions have improved since election of U.S. President Barack Obama
    The signing of celebrated black athletes to Chinese teams is also improving relations
    Beijing (CNN) — A Caucasian American businessman gets into a cab in Beijing. At first he’s relieved– the last few taxis passed straight by him, which is not unusual– it can be difficult for non-Chinese nationals to get a cab. But then comes an uncomfortable question from the driver: “Isn’t it difficult living in a country with so many black people?”
    A question that highlighted another issue: while non-Chinese nationals can have trouble getting a cab, it can be even worse for those with darker skin.
    Project manager Kris Derban has lived in China for eight years. He long suspected that taxis were not picking him up because he is an African-American. Recently his suspicions were confirmed when he asked a driver why he had hesitated to take him. “The driver said, ‘I worry Africans will run off and not pay.'”
    But catching a cab isn’t the only problem. Another common misconception Derban has to contend with is that he is a drug dealer, he said. “I’ll be with a group of friends and someone specifically comes up to ask me if I have drugs. At first I was offended. Now I tease them and say: ‘No, do you have drugs?'”
    Derban laughs off such incidents, finding humor in the ignorance. Others have been less fortunate.
    Liberian student David Johnson moved to China just two months ago. He said he has already been subjected to several racist remarks. “One time I was walking down the street and someone called me a stupid black c***,” he reported.
    “Maybe it was because I was with a Chinese girl and they don’t like that.”

    An Indian businessman at a wholesale market in Yiwu, China, where tensions flared between Indian and Chinese traders earlier this year.
    Reports of this kind of racism date back to when Africans were first welcomed into China to study at Chinese universities in the 1960s. And in 1988, a violent, 300-strong mob broke into an African students’ dormitory at Nanjing University and destroyed their possessions while chanting “down with the black devils.”
    The number of Africans and foreigners living in China has risen significantly since then. Communities have grown up in major cities such as Guangzhou, where 20,000 Africans now live, according to official figures. Some scholars, trying to account for the number of undocumented migrants, put the estimate at around 200,000.
    However, “even in those cities where there is now a concentration of black people, still most Chinese have little to no contact with them,” said Barry Sautman, a professor of social sciences at the Hong Kong University of Science & Technology who specializes in the issue of race in China. As such, their ideas about blacks are largely shaped by the media, Sautman, said, adding, “In the media, Africa is portrayed as a house of horrors, with a huge number of people dying from diseases, wars and extremely high crime rates.”
    Cultural bias against dark skin
    But it is not just Africans and those of African descent who report prejudices in China; others with darker skin are also affected.
    Hatim Shah from Mumbai in India has worked in finance in China for six years. He recalled Beijing’s visa crackdown on foreigners working or living illegally in the city around the time of the 2008 Olympics.
    “I was set to move into a house, but when I went with the landlord to the police station to register, he told me I couldn’t live there because the police didn’t want brown people in the vicinity,” he recalled. “My white South African roommate had no problem.” Although Shah believes the situation has since improved, he still feels that “if you are brown here, you are not equal.”
    He added: “They assume dark skinned people are doing something dodgy. If there’s a white person in the room, they’d rather speak to the white person.”
    Paler skin has historically been prized in China and much of Asia. Even today skin-lightening products remain popular.
    “Conversely, darker skin is associated with being a peasant,” said Sautman. “So, if you think peasants are oafish and backwards, you associate darker skin with that.”
    I’ll be with a group of friends and someone specifically comes up to ask me if I have drugs
    Kris Derban, project manager
    However, experts say, just because there is a historic prejudice against dark skin in China, it was never a given that this prejudice would automatically translate into prejudice against races with darker skins. Sautman believes that type of prejudice was imported from the West.
    “It was imported as early as the 1880s by Chinese intellectuals exposed to the Western racist literature. During the Maoist era, expressing such ideas fell out of fashion. Instead, the state promoted the idea that the Chinese should join Africans and rise up together against the white imperialists,” said Sautman. But from the beginning of China’s reform era from the late 1970s, some Western ideas were allowed to flood back in.
    While the Chinese government maintains there is no racisim here– many clearly beg to differ. But they say, given that racism seems less historically entrenched in China than in the West, there is hope it can be stamped out more easily.
    The ‘Obama effect’
    Some non-Chinese nationals say the election of U.S. President Barack Obama and the growing number of black sports stars playing for Chinese teams – such as basketball’s Stephon Marbury and footballer Didier Drogba – has helped change perceptions.
    A study conducted by Yunying Zhang at Austin Peay State University and Alexis Tan at Washington State University showed that negative stereotypes held about African-Americans– for example, that they were ‘violent’, ‘loud’ or ‘aggressive’ — were less likely to be held by Chinese people after President Obama’s election. Meanwhile Africans and African-Americans living in China report that since the election, Chinese people they meet are now more likely to bring up the president or the latest athlete signed to a Chinese team than mention negative stereotypes.
    Real-life encounters with ordinary Africans and African-Americans also play a part in dispelling racist myths. In a study of attitudes in Guangzhou, Sautman found a correlation between Chinese people actually living and working with Africans and having a more positive attitude towards the African community there.
    Derban, for his part, said: “I try to present myself in such a way that I always leave a good impression. The racism here might be blatant, but, unlike the West, because it’s not hidden, I know what I am dealing with. I can openly talk to people about it and help change impressions.”
    Loretta Evans, an African-American who has been in China for eight years feels the same. “Yes, I’ve sometimes had people stare or touch my skin, as if to see whether it’s going to rub off,” she said. “But I think this comes from curiosity not negativity. Here I don’t feel the racial tension I feel back home. I’ve done things, such as setting up my own geophysics company, which as I black woman I might not have been able to do in the States.
    “Yes, I’m treated differently from Chinese people. But here I’m different first, black second.”

  5. first, i have to say that almost 80-95% chinese belongs to O-M175 (that is specifically O3,O2 and O1), and almost every han chinese are the offshot of NO-M214.
    yes, some (1-5%) chinese (who are not from han or who are just simply mongolian) is C-M130 or D-YAP. but you should know that these so called “chinese” are not han ethnics.
    so far, i know that mt-R is less than mt-M is mordern east asian population, quite a myth. because originally mt-R correspond to MNOPS-M526 (or NOP*). O3-M122 correspond to mt-F1b,F2a

  6. let’s make it clear, real han chinese (direct descendant of ancient han) could only be about 25% percent acoording to the calculation based on autosomal result. today, most east asians including we japanese are just hybrids. this hybriding happens in the long past. but i’m quite sure that a few are still direct descendant who are not mixed. japan has 10%-15% C-M130 and D-YAP (D-YAP mostly come from jomon), 80% japanese belongs to O2+O3( yamato/yayoi) . japan and korea are also offshot of NO-M214. the main haplogroup of japanese and korean is O2b1.(O2-M95)

  7. that is, real han chinese are O3-M122+mt-R and not mixed with M130,YAP.

    there are several chinese are tested O3/O2/O1 but their mtdna is D4,D5,C,

    very few of them are mt-R. that’s why i say that most han chinese are hybrids.

    NO(father) +CD(mother) that’s why our autosomal result are wrong.

    1. Yes,so what?

      Chinese han still most linked with each other, with o3 genes(North to South)

      Since we are both east asian people,i won’t argue or debate with you.

      but,i know that, chinese han are unique,we are not relate to koreans or Japanese.

      Koreans and Japanse are both linked with Manchua or Mogol,yo are alatic race.

      We chinese han are all linked with Sino race,North are more pure,since our ancestor Huangdi is came from West of China (Gansu and Qinghai),South china is because we Han expand our empire to south in Qin, Then Han chinese mixed with Nanyue woman become south chinese today,but they are still our great han cousin and blood family,(There are only live in Guangdong.Guangxi.Yunan) Hunan Hubei are all belong to han under the NAME is Chu.

      No matter hybird or what, Han is always be Han,if your japanese welcome blacks is your thing, don’t count us in, i know it,even we are both locate in East Asia,but we chinese are always know that you koreans and Japanese are not belong into our blood type

      1. i do not want to debate with you, in fact i am sino-japanese, so i am also from han or lets say Hua sia. i can tell you that altaic language has nothing relates to korea and japan. korean and japanese used to speak sino-tibetan language. O3a3c-m134 Is the most common lineage in most Han chinese population . southern aboriginals like guangdong/guangxi zhuang ethnics true are more related to sub-saharan africans (YAP). the surname Ji ( surname of our ancestor Huangdi/ancient empiror of Zhou)is found to be of O3a3c1-M117 lineage. who also created modern Kanji.

      2. typical african ydna are DE-YAP, C-M130. National Geographic has shown the pictures. and undoubtfully C-M130 lineage is more related to east africans by far. DE,C,F is on the same stage. both emerged around 100,000 ybp (according to african eve hypothesis and the time of mtdna mt-L3(M/N)) . a further split took place between ancient european and ancient east asian around 40,000 ybp. That is, IJ*-M258 became the paleolithic cro-magnon man’s lineage and is only found in europe. later they are conquered by R-M207 from central asia(neolithic). K* (K1:LT and K2:MNOPS-M526) went east and gave rise to asians. thus they are ancestors to modern east asians(M214) and native americans (M45). MS*(K3,K4) went to sundaland and some occeana(melanesia, austrilia).

  8. in fact, ancient egyptians belongs to T-M70 (thus, a descendant from LT*), which represent a typical back migration from asia to north africa. the T-M70 is completely absent from other region exept in Egypt. They mixed up with local african aboriginals in some prehistoric times.

  9. national geographic is camels eye treaty ,, by the terms u are usiing its known that these are not ancient china or japan nation states of united nations north asia minor did not in habit akebulan south asia monor but the other way around ,nothing ancient bout these names mongolia before china ,something else else before that europe fake blood testing science they created to keep light right an tie that with a penis god ,u fail to mention atlantis an the hindustan man from perot nooww called india ,,,do u to have a god lke aryan man who suddenly created u on that land , your origin are with the muurs asiatics from aatlantis if u dont want akebulan lemuria allso ,u tried to put us out of where u came from let me qquote a counterpart of yours,,,,,,,,who claims u are no moor then aryan hindu ,,,,,,,it is not i who insult you but ur foremuthers an fathers are older then u are climing by eliinting wht they told u was black skin cause i telll u like a told winnie its the dark matter inside u that bring u into the world,,if ur insides were as pale as euro skin they say is better then no moor babies cpould be born from that womb be carefull what u wish for cause the way u treat darker skin woman an men makes me wish that white curse wwould occur inside the bodies of those who falsely claim superioroty is lighter skin , you would cease to exist withut my black carbon u call melanin ,, you would go blind be cripple deaf a dumb without the black inside of all of ur bodies all wwould be bald blonde iss ressesivve resus ,,heres one aaryan view of u which is correct if u say no the akebulan or africa in west ,,yeah we came east before 1492,, there was a time when after atlantis aryan race developed aryavarsha- aryavarta an with it other sub races [aryan man claim] among which one was mongols chinese people an its originall name not in chinese langage was sin or land of sin go to i report on cnn an see ancient map of china in banakhuda posts in hindu epic mahabuaarat of 3138 bc stillll not ancient times u re mentioned as yellow race peole which u ae not an that u were off shoot of uindu aryan in very beginning ,,then ur bloodlon began but the cambodians were ancient maya who came back.ur claim leads u to this no matter how much blood word u a winnie provide causewe go back 100,000 years an muur to milions.ur claim of existance since u clam not to be from any anciients from east or west is no older then 70000 years if it has aryan in it an before aryan came an create aces iy was all all us who creted him am it says they create u an its true by what ur claimig cause if u dont come from us muus/moors dont come from ancient times as the color people claim falsely while excluding the dark the light comes from,,shang dynasty was not paleskin or yellow am u know u not color yellow like they not white red ruddy amazon turks u see show onn tv the young turks ask them they know they muurs an where they come from an u to ,an u didnt cross bering straight an become native america no

  10. liu bang 206 bc show me this han people before him before han dynasty to whher he was made king of han zhong ,,,his battles with xiang yu who mad him king ,,this aint so anciennt an one said u was from austrailia on u tube which/witch is lemuria broke offf from asia ,,where did they tell u u come from before the yellow river or yangtze river ,you are not from peking man but the aryan is caucus of the asian whiceber asiatic muur tht would be we started the imperial govt if u have one or had one communism is illuminati,jacob schifff ,illuminati set up red china red russia the reds as enemies like they try to make muslims today in a bad light an of course currse the darkskin people spell ,that how we really knoww u came last by your effort to say u were first like it matters cause u wasnt an that king wasnt first ,how many people died in those battles he had an the qi dynasty battles before ,fear of a black planet or the dark matter it was before we created the light

    1. what is your meaning?

      Why chinese han dose has anything to do with red russia?

      Sorry, i couldn’t understand your logic,here we talk about is our sino race blood type and history,is not mentioned anyting with modren china.

      Ayran or what is none of chinese business,why bother you? we don’t care ayan is good or superior,they are not our ancescor, they are good,is good for india not for us.

      Don’t tell me that aryan was in China bla bla bullshit.is same thing as blacks says the Ancient chinese han were black.

      Is so pity,why whites,blacks koreans all going to crazy to steal our civilization? is that not good enought for you guys?

      give us a break, to be honest,only japanese people they are really honest,they admit history not like others to distord the history.

  11. all mankind comes from one source that’s why I don’t why whites try to pit Asian against
    Blacks and others races blackman and women all civilization were found on Black African
    Civilization Africa is the home of mankind and womenkind

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