The African Foundation of Modern Spain 1 — African Kings of Spain

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The African Spaniards (by Jide Uwechia)

The Moors are a group of North African population which conquered and ruled Spain and parts of Portugal for more than 700 beginning in 711 AD and ending in 1492 AD. It appears from research that even before this period going back into antiquity, this North African tribe has been synonymous with Iberia. The word Ibero-Maurisian culture used by archaeologists and historians to describe a group of pre-historic people that populated Iberia would underline this linkage.

Not many people know that the Moors are Black Africans of Libyan, Moroccan, Nigerien, Nigerian and Senegalese origins. This is due to the deliberate misinformation produced by the Euro-American power establishment, which delights in obfuscating Africa’s contribution to the history of mankind, preferring instead to appropriate to itself the glorious attainment of Africans throughout history. By the strategic control of vocabulary, semantics, nomenclature and grammatical acrobatics the academic establishment of Euro-America perpetrates its mendacity.

The greatest sort of disempowerment is the loss of cultural and historical perspective by a people. A lack of knowledge of one’s history implies an absence of knowledge about ones place in the universe. The erasure (or obfuscation) of African history and culture is the greatest tool employed by this Euro-American power structure to control Africans at home and in the diaspora.

In this series on the Moors, we are taken on an excursion through history back to the Moorish kingdom of Spain, to ascertain who those Africans were, what they did and their subsequent significance in European history, even world history.

The Moors

The term Moor has been put to diverse use, but its roots are still traceable. The word Moor originates from the Roman word Marues, which is a derivate of the Greek adjective Mauros (i.e. black or dark). In the year 46BC the Roman army entered NorthWest Africa where they encountered black Africans whom they called “Maures”. During the European Renaissance explorers, writers and scholars began to apply the term Moor to Africans in general.

Consequently, the names of African countries such as Mauritania and Morocco mean nothing other than the land of Black people the same meaning denoted in the names Khem (ancient Egypt), Cush (ancient Sudan), Sudan, Ethiopia and Nigeria.

The term Berber which was used for one group of the Moors may have been derived from a Latin corruption of one of the ethnic names of the indigenous nations of North West Africa although some have argued that it implies barbarians.  The Moorish people referred to as Berbers describe themselves as the Amazigh. It roughly translates into free or noble people.

The Berber language is called Tamazight of which there are many dialects including Tarifit or Riffi (northern Morocco), Kabyle (Algeria) and Tashelhiyt (central Morocco), Tamasheq(Niger). Tamazight has been a written language, on and off, for almost 3000 years. It was first written in the Tifinagh alphabet, still used by the Tuaregs of Libya, Niger, Nigeria, Mali and Senegal. The oldest dated inscription is from about 200 BC.

Lately, the Aryan model revisionists have tended to imply since late 19th century that the Berber/Moorish people are a white-semitic grouping in Africa. They are various described as “Afro-Semitics”, “Afro-Caucasiods”, “Caucasians”, “Semites”, “Arabs” etc. The underlieing thread here is the imprecision in definition, which leaves the general impression that whatever they were, the Berbers are not Black Africans.

According to one typical example found in the Webster’s New World Dictionary the term Berber refers to, “any of a Moslem people living in North Africa.” This extremely vague and misleading definition appears to suggest that the Bedouin Arab type (i.e. the Caucasoid Semitic types) that currently occupies much of the coastal area of north Africa are stereotypical Berbers/Moors. Nothing could be further from the truth. The Berbers/Moors are fundamentally a Black nation of Africa which occupies as its traditional home the ranges of the central Sahara desert.

The Black African Berbers/Moors

Even as Aryanist revisionists seek to obfuscate the Black African identity of the Moors, the abundance of incontrovertible evidence of the venerable Black Moorish identity in Europe makes this a daunting task.

A picture is worth a thousand words. Consequently, the many colored paintings of Black Moorish noblemen with their white servants dotting private galleries in Europe, some dated as early as 1283AD save us very many words. These pictures all indicate that the Black African Berber/Moor was a well known and respected ethnicity in Nordic Europe before even the medieval period proves and beyond. (See Blacks in Antiquity by Frank Snowden, Golden Age of the Moor ed. by Ivan Van Sertima, Black Brittanica by Edward Scobie and National Geographic Magazine). See also.

The original Berbers/Moors were Black Africans who spread from East Africa to Libya and Northwest Africa in the Pre-historic Ages. These people were the founders of various cultures which relics litter caves in the Sahara Desert. They have continuously occupied the central Sahara for more than 40,000 years. Their language Tamazight and its various dialects are recognized as a branch of the Afro-asiatic phylum of African languages. (Yosef A. ben-Jochannan, Africa: Mother of Western Civilization)

Over the course of time, due to the prosperity of the coastal North Africa, many different nations migrated there, acculturated and assimilated with the indigenous Berber/Moor population creating somewhat diverse population. Nonetheless, the bulk of the population consisted of the indigenous Black Moorish groups of the central Sahara more accurately represented by the Tuareg people of Libya, Morocco, Mauritania, Mali, Nigeria and Senegal.

In his book The Destruction of Black Civilization, Chancellor Williams declared that “Libya was once so nearly all-black that to be called a Libyan meant that one was Black. (See Chancellor Williams, The Destruction of Black Civilization p. 112).

Herodotus (the Greek historian), writing about Libya in his Histories, (Book Four) stated as follows: One thing I can add about this country: so far as one knows, it is inhabited by four races, and four only, of which two are indigenous and two are not. The indigenous peoples are the Libyans and Ethiopians, the former occupying the northerly and the latter the more southerly parts; the immigrants are the Phoenicians and the Greeks.

Later on in book seven, Herodotus stated again: The eastern Ethiopians “ for there were two sorts of Ethiopians in the army who served with the Indians. They were just like the southern Ethiopians, except for their language and hair: their hair is straight while that of the Ethiopians in Libya is the crispest and curliest in the world.

The Garamanti Empire was a Black Berber empire that flourished in Fezzan, Southern Libya. It was a contemporary of the Roman Empire and was a great challenge to the Rome since it never came under the Roman but rather remained independent until the 7th centure C.E when it declined most probably as a result of environmental changes. Scholars reckon that the Garamanti Empire lasted for about 1,000 years, from about 400 BCE to 600 CE, in today’s central Libya (Fezzan), although Fezzan has been continuously occupied by early culture societies as early as the 8th millennium B.C.E.

The Fezzan region touches the Libyan coastal zone in the north, the Libyan Desert in the east, the Tibesti massif of Chad to the south, and the Hoggar massif along with the Grand Erg Oriental of Algeria to the west. This range is the traditional range of the nomadic Black Berbers who still live in the territory even today.

Numidia was another great Black Berber nation in Northern Algeria during the time of the Romans. The kingdom existed between the 3rd to the 1st century B.C and it consisted mostly Black Africans. One of the most famous Berber/Moors of the Roman times was Masinissa the king of Numidia (238-148 BCE) who assisted the Romans against the Carthegians during the Punic wars. The coin depictions and statutes of king Masinissa confirm without doubt, that this great Berber leader, the king of the Moors was phenotypically a Black African man with wooly hair (similar to the West African type). Syphax, king of the Masaeisylians in Numidia, a contemporary and great rival of king Masanissa, was also depicted in his coinage as a phenotypically Black African.

Silius Italicus a Roman writer around the beginning of the Christian era describes the Maures as Nigra a Latin work for dark complexion. Other Roman documents referenced other Berbers groups such as the “black Gaetuli and black-skinned Asphodelodes.”

Procopius a 6th Century Byzantine historian, says the Moors (Maurusioi) were a people composed of dark-skinned tribes who had gained domination over all of North Africa after the decline of the Vandals who had gained control of the region briefly following the fall of Rome.

The founder of the African dynasty of Roman Emperors (the Severan Dynasty) Septimus Severus was a Black Berber lawyer from the then Roman colonized territory of Mauretania. His statues and coin images depict him as a phenotypical Blackman of the sub-saharan (if ever such a term were valid) type.

Anthropologists and historians generally agree pointed out that Black African nationalities such as the Tibbu and Tuwarek (Tuaregs), are the aboriginal Berber tribes of the central Sahara. They include the Lamta Berbers, and the Haratin of Morocco and Mauritania.

Black African Overlords of Iberia (Spain and Portugal)

The Berber clans that were most instrumental in the Moorish conquest of Spain (and parts of Portugal) of 711AD were the Nafza, Masmuda, Luwata, Hawwara, Zanata, Sanhadja and Zugwaha. They consisted primarily of Black Africans nations. A Muslim scholar describes the women of the Berber clan of the Sanhadja confederation in the following terms: “Their color is black, though some pale ones can be found among them.”

The Almurabitun (aka the Almoravids) another Moorish grouping which occupied Spain in 1086 AD was primarily a Black African Berber population which is not surprising as they originated in southern Morocco, Nigeria and Northern Senegal in western Africa.

It is the more interesting when one considers the European Romance of El Cid, which describes some other Berber women. It relates an account about a “Black Moorish woman” named Nugaymath Turquia who is said to have led a contingent of 300 Black Moorish “Amazons.” They were members of the Almoravid Dynasties which occupied Spain in 1086AD.

Furthermore one must mention that one of Shakespeare’s most famous characters was Othello the Black Moorish nobleman of Venice. One need only study the pictures of Othello and Desdemona rendered by European artists to appreciate what Moor meant to the western European imagination at that time. See”Othello and Desdemona in Venice” by Theodore Chassariau (1819 – 1856).

In the 13th century, the Spanish monarch Alfonso X described the Moors as follows:
All the Moorish soldiers were dressed in silk and black wool that had been forcibly acquired their faces were like pitch and the most handsome of them was like a cooking pan.

The Chanson of Roland (Song of Roland) an ode written after the Moors invaded France in 718 A.D., at verses 145 and 146 described the invaders as blacker than ink with large noses and ears and with nothing white except the teeth. See Moriaen. Arthurian Romance No. 4, PP. 29, 39, 41, 103. 1907. Trans. by J. L. Watson.

The Chanson of Roland states that the Moorish army was 50,000 strong and led by Marganice, Emperor of Ethiopia and Carthage. Their most valiant figure is described as Abisme (probably a derivative of, Abyssinian), who (verse 126) is described as black as melted pitch. In this epic, the Moors are called Sarrazins, in English, Saracens.

The four Moorish kings killed in battle by Pedro VIII, king of Aragon, on November 18, 1096, who were depicted in the official coat of arms of Aragon, are shown as Black Africans kings. See Biblioteca de escritores aragoneses. Blancas. Comentarios de las cosas de Aragon. Seccion histor. 3, p. 110. 1878.

The Nigerians and Senegalese Moors

Moorish troops from Nigeria and Senegal played an important part in the Moorish conquest of Spain especially under Abderrahman I. (757-787), who founded the independent kingdom of Cordova. A later Moorish leader who conquered and took over the Caliphate did so with the aid of “a great number of Black Africans soldiers from whom he formed a redoubtable regiment of cavalry in 1016” . See Troupes noires. Revue de Paris, pp. 61-80 July 1909.

The eleventh century saw the onset of decadence and confusion in the ruling Moorish dynasty of Spain. It had become corrupt and weak and was riven with strife and intrigue. That dynasty was conquered by the Almurabitun “Almoravids”, another Moorish dynasty whose original home capital was in Senegal,in western Africa, thousands of miles from Spain.

In 1086, Yusuf ben Tachfln, who is described by Moorish historian Ali ibn Abd Allah as dark and wooly-haired,  a Nigerian or Senegalese Moorish General, brought in an army composed largely of aboriginal West Africans. Another famous Moor, Yakub el-Mansur, recorded as the son of a Black woman, invaded Iberia in 1194 and made himself master of almost the whole of it. See 11. Ency. Brit. Vol. 21. See also Ibn El-Athair. pp.457-60, 462, 525; Scott, S. P. Hist. of the Moorish Empire, p. 622. 1904.

The Royal Guards of the Moorish kings were specially chosen for their strenght and size. They were tall, jet-black and of immense strength, recruited from the [Moorish tribes] of Atlas, Tumbuctoo, and Nigeria.” See Scott. S. P. History of the Moorish Empire, p. 668. 1904.

Mulatto Moors (Pale-skin Moors)

The Moors had dealt extensively in slave trading and had taken millions of Nordic (pale-skin Europeans) as slaves, wives and concubines for several centuries. According to Robert Davis, professor of History at the Ohio State University, more than a million people mostly women of European origins were traded and sold among the Moors. The consequent miscegenation produced generations of mulatto Moors. These are the same ones passed off by the European controlled mass media establishment, as the real Berbers. However, in reality the mulatto Moors represent a small group among the Moors.

The Hassaniya Arabs who dominate the Western Sahara and Mauretania today have also been called Moors. Yet, one must not forget that the Arabs only became part of the North Africa after 640 C.E. It is good that one should always guard against such kinds of misnomer as they becloud logical analysis. Granted that many pale-skin of the Beni Hassan tribe Arabs had collaborated with and had become part of the Moorish culture, the dark-skinned African Moors always represented the majority of the Moorish tribes.

In any event, African Tamazight language and African nationality were the determinants of who was berber and who was not, since race and ethnic division did not exist among the Berbers. (J.A. Rogers Nature Knows No Color Lines).

Many Nordic European men also joined the Moors both as slaves, servants, soldiers and sometimes as collaborators. Those pale-skin types later acculturated and became accepted into the Moorish nation. The descendants of this group, who have miscegenated with the Arab Hassaniya group, and the mulatto children of Spanish Moors mostly live in the coastal areas of North Africa in modern times. They are the poster children of the European establishment whenever the Moorish issue is raised. Because in so asserting, Europe seeks to deny that Black Africans ever were the overlords of pale-skin Europeans in recent times.

Some authors have suggested that the Moors like the Tuaregs of Central Sahara had been driven south by the pressure of subsequent inflow of Arab migration following the introduction of Islam to North West Africa. Tuareg Berbers of Niger, Nigeria and Senegal have traditions relating of their ancient territories along the coast of Northern Africa and subsequent southerly migrations. See Karl G. Prasse, The Tuaregs: The Blue People; Museum Tusculanum Press, 1995.

The Tuaregs

The Tuareg are the original people of North Africa with obvious physical and cultural affinities to the ancient Blacks (negritos) of the Saharan Desert. They are descended from the Garamantes who once controlled the caravan trade routes across the Sahara. The Tuareg are nominal Muslims, they speak a Berber language called Tamashegh, and read and write the tifinagh script related to ancient Libyan ones.

No one knows the exact number of the Tuaregs as they are divided up in different countries. It is approximated at more than 1,500 000 people. The Tuareg groups are divided between Niger Nigeria, Mali, Algeria and Libya. The largest group lives in Niger and Nigeria, and includes the Kel Azawagh (or Eastern Iwellemmedan), the Kel Ayr and the Kel Geres.

The Tuareg who live in Mali include the Kel Adghagh (or Adrar), the Kel Ensar (formerly Kel Tadamakat), and the Western Iwellemmedan. The Kel Ahaggar and the Kel Ajjer live in southern Algeria, and some Kel Ajjer live in Libya near the Algerian frontier. Other groups are the Udalan Tuareg who dwell in northern Burkina Faso.

Like typical Berbers, the Tuareg have never formed a homogeneous whole. Instead, they are grouped into politically autonomous federations which are divided into northern and southern groups. The Tuareg identify themselves by their group names. A supreme chief (or amenokal) who has legal authority but little power today rules each federation. See Karl G. Prasse, The Tuaregs: The Blue People; Museum Tusculanum Press, 1995.

Tuareg origin myths suggest that the Tuareg descended from Lemtuna, the ancestress of the Berbers who lived around Ghadames in Tripolitania (Nicolaisen 1963: p. 405). Another myth relates the Tuareg to the legendary Queen Tin Hinan who came to Abalessa in the Ahaggar region from Tafilelt in Morocco. According to Prasse, these legends suggest the Tuareg of southern Algeria came from Libya and Morocco, and the Kel Ayr and Kel Geres (Nigerian Berber/Moors) have Libyan origins. Tuareg from Mali claim to have come from Morocco or Mauritania. See Karl G. Prasse, The Tuaregs: The Blue People; Museum Tusculanum Press, 1995.

Tuareg economy has always been based on livestock breeding, agriculture and trade. The taxing of caravans crossing the Sahara, slavery, and raiding on neighboring groups were historical vocations no longer practiced. Salt remains an important commodity and, along with dates, is bartered with millet and cloth bought in southern areas.

This very Tuaregs of modern time and other allied tribes of Black African muslims had ruled the Iberian peninsula for more than 700 years commencing from 711 A.D. They stamped Southern Europe, even the entire Europe with an indelible signature. They bequeathed to this Europe a priceless intellectual and cultural legacy which propelled Europe into a position of global pre-eminence. Other installments will continue the examination of this issue of Moorish colonization of Southern Europe.

Jide Uwechia

June 24, 2006


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65 thoughts on “The African Foundation of Modern Spain 1 — African Kings of Spain”

  1. This is unfortunately typical of the historical revisionism which turns Eurocentrist lies on their heads, switches the colors and proclaims that the truth has prevailed! But no, it is just more lies, this time black lies rather than white ones. Still lies.

    The Numidians were ancestors of the modern Kabyle. They were not black. Moors could be Arab, Berber, or West African (black). The ancient Iberians of Spain and of Western Europe generally clearly descend from Cro-Magnon and were the ancestors of modern Western Europeans.

    All this Afrocentrist excess does is make scholars of Africa look bad, discredits the entire field, and distracts from the TRUE refutation of Eurocentrist racism which is necessary.

    EGYPT was black! The Berbers were not, Spain was not, Europe was not, the Olmecs were not, the Emperors of China were not!…etc.

    1. The population of one single world came out of one single woman from Africa. So whether east or west Europe, north or south Africa, central America, or Asia, they all came out of Africa. We have to thank god for the gift of DNA knowledge. Now we know that what pulled the world together, is more than what pushed us all apart.

    2. All that may be true sir, but why is there always this burden of proof required when African history or Africans part in world history is being by talked about by Africans? We (Africans and others) take your word for it, when you describe the world from a Eurpoean perspective. but we need to prove to you that events that happened on our continent couldn’t have been done by us. We were bamboozled for a long time about Kemet aka Egypt until Africans (Shiek Anta Diop) began to dig into their heritage and that didn’t go down well then, either. Europe didn’t invent history sir. Thank you

  2. Palaeo…

    Please cite some scholarly material to substantiate your claim that ancient Numidians were not Black Africans. Cite some work on osetological analysis connecting Cro-Magnon to modern Europeans. Cite some work by a serious scholar denying the African foundation of Spain in particuar or Europe in general.

    There are no racists here except those who deny Africa’s history and heritage reflexively. Africa has a history which must be told!

    Bend down low and learn. Your arrogance is founded on lies which collapse upon close scrutiny.

    We invite your challenge on academic and logical grounds. Sound and constructive criticism are welcome.

    However, sentimentalism and emotional outbursts will not be countenanced. Behave like a scholar. Either put up or shut up!

    Jahdey

  3. I bow before no racists, and certainly not you who are among the most insidious type…the pseudo-intellectuals spewing supremacism.

    You are no scholar with your spurious and highly imaginative musings. The literature is full of descriptions of Cro-Magnon which establish that they are Eurasians and in continuity with the modern European population. All finds from that era are different from the modern ones, just as Grimaldi differs from modern West Africans, and for the same reason: evolution continues to occur.

    The Kabyle live today in Numidia. Take a good look at them. Their history establishes their presence there for millenia. They are not black. Perhaps you need some modern ocular assistance.

    I need not produce any evidence denying the African foundation of Spain or Europe since you have produced none to substantiate it. Spain was a province of Rome. Its roots are Iberian and Celtic, before Rome. None of that is African. This is so well-known to historians and anthropologists as to not require discussion.

    Your posing and posturing notwithstanding, you have said nothing. As I see from your other posts, you will likely continue to say nothing.

    I will continue to dispute and refute Afronazis such as yourself as well as Euronazis who both perpetrate such evil and insidious nonsense on the gullible.

    And lose your arrogant attitude with me, boy. Act like a man, if you can. Talk to me like this in person and you’ll regret it. I do not countenance punks lightly.

    1. What is funny that whites dont like that black rule all over they hide facts in their history
      and only bring them out so they use for themselve.

  4. Pale-o-peasant

    Listen up and be smart. Either you have some citations or not. We don’t deal with whiners here. You have to have scholarly backing for what you are saying otherwise you are just monkeying around.

    Put up or shut up!!!

    Jahdey

  5. Finally the truth is known. It is interesting to note that the Viking word (blaumen) and some Taureg/Moroccan name for some tribes are “BlueMen’. That in itself is a descriptive presnece of these bluemen from the same geogaphical location!

    Many Europeans joined the Moors and later the Turks because their own system of social mobility was non existent (forerunner of modern civil service). It is only logical to assume that they married into the tribal groups (usually African or Turkish) and with back migration to the country of origin of their spouses, we see sample of this in DNA samples. This is on explanation of a “European haplotype” within an African socio-cultural sphere keeping in mind U6 roots are in Africa in small frequencies!

    Search the references about the yeniseri in Turkey. Many were Europeans seeking a better way for themselves. Many were captures a s children and schooled in military education of the day while while others as adults welcomed a chance to be somebody.

  6. It is true, Africa has a deep rich history that will never be known to the Westen Euro masses, bacause if history ever teaches us, the winners write their own version, for some reason African History has been a very oral history not one rich in written tradition. Some experts may claim this as a form of lack of intelligence. I see it as a product of need. Every culture has in someway dominated or held influence over another. It is certain that North Africa was different 2000 years ago and through intermarraige and breeding the faces of today don’t resemble the faces of yesteryears. North African today are more Arabic in appearance than Black. The Southern Europeans don’t really resemble the blond haired, fair skinned peoples of 2000 years ago. At one point in history Africa dominated culturally and Militarily, not now. Western or Euro/American cultures have dominated technology, trade and culture. Look at how the current Asain Cultures have also grown in influence. The latin culture with their sheer size and ever increasing population. In other words times change, the Euro dominated the time of enlightenment and put out the fires of any African influence. African cultures did not stand a chance.

  7. What is everyone confused about. The passage which preceeds these posting is just one of many documented evidence that Beethoven was of at least mixed heritage. Blackamoor was a term used solely to describe people of African decent because the racism azz terms utilized today by Whites around the world did not exist such as nigger, negro (Spanish for the color black, not black people), colored, etc… Futhermore, Moor (derived form the Greek and Roman word Maur or Maurii) was used 1500 years ago to describe people of Africa. This word was used to describe the people of the regions now known as Morroco, Mauritania, Alegeria and Tunisia. These regions did NOT know of the word Maur (Moor) until the Romans named it Mauretania after the defeat of Hannabal and Carthage in the final Punic War. This region along with the Numibia Empire was later divided into two Romain provinces (Mauretania Tingitana and Mauretania Caesariensis) by Roman Empirer Caligula in 40 AD. These provincal names consist of the root-word Maur, as the Romans were notorious for re-naming territories with names based on the terran, people or climate. This is true with the name Africa which is derived from the Roman word ‘Afrik’ meaning “Without cold” because Africa was very hot to the Romans and never cold. So the people of Northwest Africa were given names along with the that region which signified the color of the people “Maur” meaing “black’. Afterall, nothing else in that region was black as the sands are very light tan color. The word Moor was used exclusive during the Classical Roman, Romanesque and Medivel period to denote African blackness. It was only during the Rennaisance peroid of Europe that the word black was added to the word to denote black African because the people of Northwest Africa had begun to change quick significantly as more and more Arabs arrived to that region white-washing the blackness of the original Moors. Many Europeans still used ‘Moor’ to denote an African decent person. Therefore, Blackamoor became synonymous with the ever decreasing Black Moorish population of Northwest Africa as the more euro-looking Arabs became the dominate and most populous culture thereby taking the name Moor so that when you go to Morroco or Mauritania today you will encounter, nomenclaturely, Black Moors and White Moors. Most certainly though, Blackamoor would not have been used to denote a person of even slightly mixed ethnicity such as Mariah Carey if that person was more European looking. Blackamoor would have been the word of choice for someone who was unmistakebly black even if they were comparable to a lightskinned black such as Will Smith or Halle Barry. Of course, today words are used outside of America to denote mixed African??? ethnicity such as Creole, Mulatto, etc. Keep in mind that in old Germany the term used to refer to what is a Negro today was ‘Mohr’ so the word is definitely used to describe black Africans. Even as a mullato there would be a 85% chance that he would look more black that white as the majority of mixed black due today with the Mariah Carey types being a small minortiy such as the the singer Prince whose thick lips, steep progthanic profile and curly hair, despite having a very light complexed skin tone, is still noticably black mixed.

  8. PS.. Based on the phenotypes of the massive head busts left behind the Olmecs, culture differences notwithstanding, they are clearly Africanoid in racial stock.

  9. Poor Black Americans.

    What a lot of lies they have to learn to feel good with themselves. Diop, Van Sertima, Clyde Winters, all lied, but made Blacks to feel good; so they accepted them.

    Moor (Moro) was a term used in Spain for ANY MUSLIM, and in particular to Muslims of the coastal zones of the MAGREB, which are not really Black subsaharan Africans at all. Nothing to do with Black Africans.

    The rest is bull

    Omar Vega

  10. Omar Vega

    You are one pathetic brainwashed mongrel seeking to appropriate African history. Go ask your fathers and they will tell you that there are more African muslims than there are Kurdish muslims (your so called Arab type). Black muslim Fatimids ruled North Africa and conquered Spain. Maure means Black. Like in “Black as a Moor” or “Black-a moor” an old English expression. What is so hard for you to understand my Kurdish pup??

    Jahdey

  11. This is but one lecture by Nation Of Islam Minister Eric Muhammad that deals with the topic at hand.

    AFTER THE WORKINGS OF SATAN

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  12. This lecture by Minister Eric Muhammad focuses on the need for an Islam that will bring about an “AFRICAN” redemption both on the continent and throughout the diaspora. It also points out that this must begin first with the sons and daughters of “AFRICA” here in America.

    AFRICA FOR THE AFRICANS

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  13. WATCH Video: The Moors in Antiquity featuring Runoko Rashidi scholar, historian and researcher of note on The African presence in Asian and pacific island and Co-editor of The Golden age of the moors by Dr. Ivan Vansertima. In this presentation he covers the historical significant of the Africans called Moors and their conquest of Europe.
    http://mindwarz.com/media/moorsinantiquity

  14. I enjoy how Oddmodd and Jahdey used common sense and knowledge, to put the idiots in their place. As for Kawashkar,my sentiments goes out to that person. Most Hybrid people in the Muslim world such as (Arabs)and even Asians(Pakistan)don’t want to give the Black Africans(Moors)their rightful due. If they did they would no longer be able to brag. How they were the ones who brought civilization to Europe. We all know that it was the Muslim(Moors)who did. Which would make perfect sense why the white world felt the needed to enslave us. So we would have no knowledge of self. As for the Moors,they rode through Spain with their beautiful Black selves,on White horses to conquer her. In some of the caves of Spain you can still see drawings,of the Moors. For to long the Black race here in the western world have been asleep at the wheel, so to speak. It is good to see that some of us are now waking up. If one wants to know the past(Black people)all they have to do is look at the present. Hybrid(White or other)people don’t mind pimpping the African race,which we can see even in todays society. Look at how they have infiltrated our music,dressing and even how we talk. When a group of people want to rob someone or something,they want to steal the best. No one wants to waste their time by stealing trash. So on that note the people of African blood can take comfort in knowing this. As I grow older I’m able to feel even that much more greater about my Black self. When I look at my white friends and other. They are looking old,and we are all just in our late thirties. With good genentics and inteligents I would say it’s all the more reasons to hate the Black race,woulddn’t you. Peace out and love.

  15. What a pitty.

    Moors are not western Subsaharan Africans but Coastal Berbers. By extension, all Muslims were called Moors in Middle Ages Spain.

    The rest is FANTASY.

    Why don’t you look for reality in Western Subsaharan Africa?

    Omar Vega

  16. I would humbly thank you for your confirmation of information. I personally consider myself a historian and haven’t truly readed or heard a positive acknowlegement give to the black moors contibution in europe.

  17. dear sir
    i’m not going to discuss the ‘Africans’ or Moors’ (as you call them)contributions to the European civilization. Many European and American researchers have stated and endorsed the Arobo-Moorish contributions. Something that has aroused my wrath is your construction of the inhabitants of Morocco. My question is how would you account for the fact that most Moroccan berbers are either white or blond mainly those who have mixed neither with the arab conquerors or the imported slaves from sub-saharan countries? I want to correct Oddmodd too. The Arabs hve never whitewashed the Berbers as themselves have never been as white as the original Berbers- those of the Atlas,or of the Riff or of Souss.

  18. alot of people dont know it, but this is when “caucanoids” hatred towards so called black people began, when the moors ran thru europe crushing everything in their path, the only thing bad about that is they didnt “finish” the job, instead that taught the people today who think their the “superior race” how to navigate read write and many other things.

    and actually i read song of roland in high school its very boring, heres a quote from the piece.

    But what avail? Though fled be Marsilies,
    He’s left behind his uncle, the alcaliph
    Who holds Alferne, Kartagene, Garmalie,
    And Ethiope.

    Who are more black than ink is on the pen
    With no part white, only their teeth except,
    Then says that count: “I know now very well
    That here to die we’re bound, as I can tell.
    Strike on, the Franks! For so I recommend.”
    Says Oliver: “Who holds back, is condemned!”
    Upon those words, the Franks to strike again.

  19. LOL, when I saw the website was rasta, I knew I shouldn’t take it seriously. Moor means any Muslim for the Spaniards. They call the Turks, Arabs, even Filipino (South East Asian) Muslims “Moro”. The Berbers themselves are not black at all. The original inhabitants of the Canary Islands, the Guanches, were Berbers and were described as blue eyed, and red haired… One needs only to look at portraits of Moor ambassadors to England in the 15th/16th century, they were white skinned. It’s well known that the blacks that were in Muslim society of the time were slaves of the Arabs, and other Muslims (the Turks,etc.), occupying the lowest rung of the social ladder. BTW, a modern day Berber is the French soccer player Zinedine Zidane, take a look how black he is…he could pass for a European.

  20. Oh yeah, black in those days was called to any dark skinned person. The Indians of North America were also described as “black” by the Spaniards in the 16th century.

  21. I would tend to agree with Daniel Randall. Moro..perhaps included those that were mixed with sub saharan african, but a Moor was a Moslem. Andalucia Spain( Southern ) was part of this dynasty. The Moors ruled for over 800 years. Thus many of us Spaniards and those descended are mixed. However, to say that all moors were black is crazy. Would you say all arabs are black? Some arabs would be mixed with African such as Moroccans, Egyptians, Algerians…but not all are sub saharan african.

    The original inhabitants of Iberian ( Iberian Peninsula / Spain and Portugual) where of a North African Tribe. Berbers origins are still unknown. And by the way, the Guanches ( Tribes from the Canary Islands in Spain/ off the coast of Africa) that descended from the Berbers were very tall white, blond haired and blue eyed white men” The spaniards still fought with them…so it was not over skin color! Who gives a rip if someone is black, yellow, brown or white…we are all Gods creation!

    Fact is, if you are from a mediterranean country such as Spain, Italy, Greece, Portugal..etc..chances are you have arab/moorish and african blood. Most of us got our genes including skin color and hair and eyes not from the Nordic European..so what!!

    I know for a fact as a Spaniard that I have moorish blood in me, perhaps some gypsy some where and other blends that make the spanish people…so what!! I am proud of what I am..and you should be too. Let me leave you with this thought 1+nothing does not equal two…it must be 1+1 that equals two and so on and so forth. We are all mixed and that is what makes us who we are today!.

  22. Oooh Myyyy…. Thats why I love the internet 😉
    So moors were black. oh ha ha ha ha haaaaa!!! I love it. ha hahaha!!!!
    You MUST be american!!!
    Listen, I am a Spaniard, I tell you, we have studied our history and are proud of it, but I assure you that moor “moro” means muslim NOT black. For gods sake no more of this.
    I know reading is boring, but please, please read a little about what you write.
    oh my BLACK!! no way man.
    Lets see: I know that this maybe difficult for you, but THERE ARE countries in Africa that are not black, and where the black population is minuscule.
    Read more or nobody is going to take you seriously.
    No offense man.

  23. The conquest of the Peninsula of Iberia was led by Arabs who invaded North Africa with large contingents of Berbers, the autochthonous people of that region.
    Berbers, and their ancestors the paleo-Berbers or proto-Berbers, as well as the Libyans who are depicted by the Egyptians as being bearded, light skinned, strong nosed, sometimes with dark long straight hair sometimes with blond hair, all have been linked to the ancient North African early man known as “Mechtoid” which is neither Caucasoid, nor Negroid. It would be a mediterranean human type. This “mechtoid’ man is found all throughout Northern Africa in funerary sites from the Valley of the Nile to the Atlantic and in the Canary Islands, and along the Atlantic Coast of Africa all the way to northern Mali.

    Numidia was a Berber Kingdom at the time of the Roman occupation of North Africa, whose kings are depicted on coins, such as Jugurtha, Massinissa, Juba I and II…. All are very white-skinned, bearded individuals akin to the Kabyles of today.

    I am an anthropologist, specializing in archaic Egypt and Amazigh (Berber and Tuareg) early and modern cultures – cultures which range from the Oasis of Siwa in Egypt through Libya, Tunisia, Algeria, Morocco, the Canary islands, the Sahara Desert, Mali, Niger and Burkina-Faso. This large territory is called in our language Tamazgha, and Tamazgha is funded on millennia old traditions which are Africans while quite distinct from those of Negroid people of sub-Saharan regions. When black-skinned people entered our territories, they began to be known as “Sudanese” (thus, Gnawa groups are descendants of Negro slaves brought in North Africa by the Arabic slave trade after the 11 th century) or Harratin, who are a group of darker skinned people attached to the Tuaregs, whose origins are the Sahara desert, but whose gene pool is apparented to the Berber one, and not to those of Negroes south of the Sahara….

    For abundant readings on the matter, please read “Les Premiers Berberes” of Malika Hachid (Algeria, 2001),or “The Shining Ones” of Helene Hagan (2000) and all the Arabic essayists of the middle ages who described the people they encountered as they invaded North Africa. There is also a Ph D. thesis written by a Senegalese titled “Rome, Carthage and the Berbers” written in English that is quite good if you wish to evaluate rightly the misleading fantasies of a handful of Afro-centrists.

  24. Essaouda

    What appears to confuse you is the word Black. It appears to give you a lot of angst. As such, Black African according to your definition is different from a subsaharan negroid. That meaningless term “subsaharan negroid” is a recent invention (less than 30 years of etymology) and it does not define the historical, genetic or social identity of black Africans.

    The categorization and division of Black Africans by Europeans and wannabes like you was based on a racist colonial agenda of divide and rule not science or fact. That agenda was thrown out long ago following African victory over colonialism and racism.

    Your Arab ass would want to claim African achievements as its own but your weak-minded attempts are trumped by the Holy Koran which describes white Arabs as the most barbaric and worthless of human groups, which by 5 century AD had achieved nothing of substance in human history. The Koran explicitly stated that the great civilizations of Arabia and North Africa were built by the ancestors of the Black nation of Africa. If your Arab ass can argue against the moral and historical authority of the Holy Koran then bring it on.

    Take your anthropological colonial lessons with you next time you take a look at the statues of Massanisa, Emperor Philip
    of Rome, Juba and the Libyan dynasty that ruled Eygpt. Pictures do not lie. Statues are carved in stone and your little Arab black/white ass from Saudi Arabia cannot hide the monumental works of Black Kings.

    Go read up the Black Arab series on Rastalivewire, so that you will know where you are coming from and where you are headed. Go research on Dr Chiek Anta Diop of Senegal on what he has to say about the early racial and genetic makeup of North Africa. Go look at contemporary European depictions of the Moors who ruled them.

    Anthropological liar!

    Jahdey

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