Ancient African Kings Of India
By
Dr. Clyde Winters
Ethiopians have had very intimate relations with Indians. In fact, in antiquity the Ethiopians ruled much of India. These Ethiopians were called the Naga. It was the Naga who created Sanskrit.
A reading of ancient Dravidian literature which dates back to 500 BC, gives us considerable information on the Naga. In Indian tradition the Naga won central India from the Villavar (bowmen) and Minavar (fishermen).
The Naga were great seamen who ruled much of India, Sri Lanka and Burma. To the Aryans they described as half man and snake. The Tamil knew them as warlike people who used the bow and noose.
The earliest mention of the Naga, appear in the Ramayana , they are also mentioned in the Mahabharata. In the Mahabharata we discover that the
Naga had the capital city in the Dekkan, and other cities spread between the Jumna and Ganges as early as 1300 BC. The Dravidian classic, the Chilappathikaran made it clear that the first great kingdom of India was
Naganadu.
The Naga probably came from Kush-Punt/Ethiopia. The Puntites were the greatest sailors of the ancient world. In the Egyptian inscriptions there is mention of the Puntite ports of Outculit, Hamesu and Tekaru, which corresponds to Adulis, Hamasen and Tigre.
In Sumerian text, it is claimed that the Puntites traded with the people of the Indus Valley or Dilmun. According to S.N. Kramer in The Sumerians, part of Punt was probably called Meluhha, and Dilmun was probably the ancient name of the Indus Valley. (Today some scholars maintain that Oman, where we find no ancient cities was Dilmun and the Indus Valley may have been Meluhha).
Ancient Ethiopian traditions support the rule of Puntites or Ethiopians of India. In the Kebra Nagast, we find mention of the Arwe kings who ruled India. The founder of the dynasty was Za Besi Angabo. This dynasty according to the Kebra Nagast began around 1370 BC. These rulers of India and Ethiopia were called Nagas. The Kebra Nagast claims that ” Queen Makeda “had servants and merchants; they traded for her at sea and on land in the Indies and Aswan”. It also says that her son Ebna Hakim or Menelik I, made a campaign in the Indian Sea; the king of India made gifts and donations and prostrated himself before him”. It is also said that Menalik ruled an empire that extended from the rivers of Egypt (Blue Nile) to the west and from the south Shoa to eastern India”, according to the Kebra
Nagast. The Kebra Nagast identification of an eastern Indian empre ruled by
the Naga, corresponds to the Naga colonies in the Dekkan, and on the East
coast between the Kaviri and Vaigai rivers.
The presence of Meluhhaites/ Puntites in India may expain the Greek tradition of Kusites ruling India up to the Ganges. It would also explain the Aryan traditions of Mlechchas ( Sanskrit name for some of the non-Aryan people) as one of the aboriginal groups of India. Many scholars associate the name Mlechchas with Meluhha.
The major Naga tribes were the Maravar, Eyinar, Oliyar, Oviyar, Aru-Valur and Parathavar. The Nagas resisted the invansion of the Cholas. In the Kalittokai IV,1-5, the Naga are described as being “of strong limbs and hardy frames and fierce looking tigers wearing long and curled locks of hair.” The Naga kings of Sri Lanka are mentioned in the: Mahawanso, and are said to have later become Dravidians, as testified to by the names of these people: Naganathan, Nagaratnam, Nagaraja and etc.
The major gift of the Naga to India was the writing system: Nagari. Nagari is the name for the Sanskrit script. Over a hundred years ago Sir William Jones, pointed out that the ancient Ethiopic and Sanskrit writing are one and the same.
William Jones, explained that the Ethiopian origin of Sanskrit was supported by the fact that both writing systems the writing went from left to right and the vowels
were annexed to the consonants. Today Eurocentric scholars teach that Indians taught writing to the Ethiopians, yet the name Nagari for Sanskrit betrays the Ethiopia origin of this form of writing. Moreover, it is interesting to note that Sanskrit vowels: a,aa,’,I,u,e,o, virama etc., are in the same order as Geez.
The Ethiopian script has influenced many other writing systems. Y.M. Kobishnor, in the Unesco History of Africa, maintains that Ethiopic was used as the model for Armenian writing, as was many of the Transcaucasian scripts. Dravidian literature indicate that the Naga may have introduced worship of Kali, the Serpent, Murugan and the Sun or Krishna. It is interesting to note that a god called Murugan is worshipped by many people in East Africa.
It is interesting that Krishna, who was associated with the Sun, means Black, this is analogous to the meaning of Khons of the Kushites. Homer, described Hercules as follows: “Black he stood as night his bow uncased, his arrow string for flight”. This mention of arrows identifies the Kushites as warriors who
used the bow, a common weapon of the Kushites and the Naga.
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Kumarinadu
The Naga or Ethiopians were defeated by Dravidian speaking people from Kumarinadu. Kamarinadu is suppose to have formerly existed as a large Island in the India ocean which connected India with East Africa. This landmass is mentioned in the Silappadikaram, which said that Kamarinadu was made up of seven nadus or regions. The Dravidian scholars Adiyarkunallar and Nachinaar wrote about the ancient principalities of Tamilaham, which existed on Kamarinadu.
Kumarinadu was ruled by the Pandyans/Pandians at Madurai before it
sunk beneath the sea. The greatest king of Kumarinadu was Sengoon.
According to Dravidian scholars the Pandyans worshipped the goddess Kumari Amman. This Amman, probably corresponds to the ancient god Amon of the Kushites.
The Kalittokai 104, makes it clear that after the Pandyans were forced to migrate off their Island home into South India, “to compensate for the area lost to the great waves of the sea, King Pandia without tiresome moved to the other countries and won them. Removing the emblems of tiger (Cholas) and bow (Cheras) he, in their place inscribed his reputed emblem fish (Pandia’s) and valiantly made his enemies bow to him”.
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Jahdey Speaks:
“Kalasa…The key to African Indian historical connections lies in the Andamanese, the Tamils and the Dravidians. Those ones know their origins. They all carry African chromosomes, speak Afro-related language and practise African derived culture. Y-DNA is usually K2 (African-Arabs), J1 (Afro-Arabs), YAP (Nigerian), E (African) D (African-connected via YAP chromosome). The rest of the Asiatics are Y-DNA O lineages.
Tamils are blacks, Dravidians are blacks, Andamanese are black with phenotypes very close to modern living Africans. There is more connection between the languages of India and Africa than one would realize. Your famous Aryan language has no foundation. Where was it originated? What people spoke it first? Do you realize that the Aryan language theory arose due to the observations of an untrained linguist (a British colonial Judge in India) who fantasized that there were similarities between Sanskrit and English. . ..”
Contradict any of the above statements.
Kalasa whines:
“…South Africa was developed by white South Africans and my ancestors, to uplift the locals and also for refugees from the rest of Africa to pour across our borders and live off tax payers money. Were it not for colonization, South Africa would be just another African shithole.”
Jahdey Roars:
“Another sodomized colonial bitch. Twisted ugly with schizophrenia.”
BTW: Your ancestors came to south Africa as slaves. When the British withdrew from African slave trading they focussed on slaves from the Indian sub-continent. http://www.anc.org.za/ancdocs/history/solidarity/indiasa3.html
That is how come you are in South Africa. Wake up foolish dog Kalasa, wake up your spark of humanity and think.”
Jahdey
Many pakistanis and bengladeshis were members of the low castes during the period of hinduism.
This is why “Aryan” Indians despised them as well.
This is also why they adopted islam, in so high proportions, ie fleeing the unfair cast system
Many Pakistanis , Bengladeshis and even “aryan ” indians have “arab” blood into their vein, due to islam invasion troops.
Some of these guys, in London deserve serious slapping, I’m telling you, they’re so racist…
I remember one strange thing when I arrived in london, they call all the black men BOSS…Coming from Paris I didn’t understand the reason underneath…
When I asked one asian guy, he told me : ” This is how black folks called their master during slavery”…
Indian Slaves:
http://www.africaresource.com/rasta/sesostris-the-great-the-egyptian-hercules/indian-slaves-in-south-africa-a-retrospect/
Response to Afrocentric Retards.
My posts on 04/26 were aimed to correct Clyde Winters lies in sugesting genetic association between South Indians and Africans and to dispell the ludricous theory that Ethiopians spread Sansrkit to India. Nowhere have I made racist comments or suggested that Indians were Aryans, and my outrage was directed at Afrocentricts. It is rather Jahdey who as used racist terms, not I.
If this will end the genetic debate…….BMC Genetics doi:10.1186/1471-2156-9-86 (watkins et al) shows conclusively that Tamils and South Indians have direct Y-chromosome haplotypes and mt-DNA links to North Indians and caucasians…….. Africa clusters with Arabs to an extent, but not India. (I did not check Shudras or those outside of the caste but they are aboroginal Indians)……
Also most of the Islamic invaders were Persians and Turkics…..they killed men and raped women and converted them to Islam….the product of these rapes is Pakistan….India is to an extent free of Arab blood.
The Andamanese cluster with orientals in Burma and Vietnam e.g. So am really not sure where Jahdey is getting his info……
Also, I never called Sanskrit an Aryan language. Aryan is a term that should never be used in a racial sense, simply because a pure race doesnt exist. I said classical Sanskrit is a root Indo-European language like Latin or Ancient Greek. Vedic Sanskrit is related to Proto-Germanic and its origins are lost in antiquity…..but it certainly didnt originate in Ethiopia. Also, much of the ancient Sanskrit literature is found in the Indus Valley, not in Africa…..which is also pretty far away from the South West coast of India……I doubt that a great army of Ethiopians on rafts, armed with sharpended sticks and rocks managed to fight their way through all the Hindu kingdoms to get there. Even Alexander the Great couldnt conquer the Indus valley region.
As for Indians who think they are Aryans…..well that is just as laughable as Clyde Winters theories……..as long as a Scandinavian walks, then Indians and Paks cannot use the word Aryan…….nobody should really. Yes, Hindus do mock one another and South Indians and other darkies from North India get ripped on all the time…….so what…… How often have Germans racially abused South Europeans……The Poles mock the Russians…Swedes look down on Finns…..yet theyre all European…..they dont become balck just because another group racially abuses them. So Jahdey, if some of your dark Indian friends think theyre black….then good for them. Unfortunately DNA tests wont support them, but thats their problem. And if Indian girls have black lovers, then who cares……certainly not I…….only a racist would object.
To enlighten you further Jahdey, small groups of Indians came to South Africa in 1860 to work on farms…..they signed 5 year contracts where they were paid a pittance, yet they worked hard paid off their travel costs ….some returned to India and others bought farms and stayed to develop South Africa. Therafter more passenger Indians arrived to set up businesses, etc….Remember a guy called Gandhi……The British realised that the local negroids were too lazy and incompetent to farm the land. Sure they called themselves warriors….running around half naked with their sticks…..but they had their chance in South Africa and did nothing with it. Slaves (like Jamaicans and African Americans) were forcibly taken and sold into slavery where they were not paid. South African Indians were contracted workers who were free men and received wages…..so get your facts checked Jahdey.
As a South African, I see how Afrocentric dumbasses are ruining my beloved country. I have seen what they have done to Rhodesia……So, I ask once again, that low self esteem, Afrocentric idiots stop trying to make themselves feel better by calling the wrong people black and apologise for insulting the people of Sanskrit descent.
Kalasa o thou wretched low caste twit
In India, the peoples of Gujarat, Kerala, Andaman, Nicobar Islands and the Siddis are direct descendants from Africa. There are more connections but these ones I will start with.
Sanskrit is related to Ethiopic you mindless bum. Dr. Winters is a renowned University Professor a hundred times more educated than the most educated member of your low caste tribe of ex-south African slaves.
The Indians brought to South Africa came as slaves. Your ancestors came as slaves which is why you do not know where you come from in India neither can you return back there again. You are a rootless, lower caste descendant of slavery..which is not to say there is anything wrong in that. But keep your facts straight. Check the links I posted for you.
Give me the names of those Y-DNA that Andamanese carry. And while you are at it, show me text that dissociates Y-DNA YAP or DE* from Africa. It is not simply a matter of regurgitating ill digested crap which you vomit back so violently. It is critical thinking and analysis that we need. Show me how HBSS gene in India is different from Africa; show me how the mt_DNA M1 is different from Africa.
The holiest books of India affirm that enlightenment came from Ethiopia. The first God of India was a dreadlock black man called Shiva…I suppose he has aryan DNA like your bastardized Paki chromosome.
I gave you names of some prominent chromosome shared by Africans and Indians and I will recap again to shame you more: Y-DNA: DE*, E, YAP, K2; mt-DNA: M1, HBSS autosome genes. What do you have to oppose these truths?
Finally, you are not an Indian. You know not where you are from in India. You are homeless, tribeless, and friendless since you stink.
You are not South African…you cannot be an African by your own admission so you are going to remain a twerp without any pedigree. A bastardized and sodomized Asian monkey, digusting in your stark and pitiful self loathing.
Go find your so-called “white” boyfriends to sodomize you some more…so that you will hate even your shadow that follows you.
Wretched homeless dog! Lover of junk, spunk and vomit.
Yes these Indians are racists, but man your comments were a bit too heavy and insulting though.
Yes Indians are racist, but crazy how they love them some Michael Jackson.
Mr Jahday, I think you should speak for your self and dont generalize people from Kerala as African. I’m from Kerala, my Y haplogroup is L, my ethnic origin is closer to Semetic and Asian people and not African. Stop such clueless nonsense. Haplogroup C an D are closer to your DNA.They are found in South India and spead to Papua New Guinea to Australia.
Sir, You do not deserve to be called khalsa. Your comments are laughable as well as rude!
british mi5 blind traveling agents for britan do not farewell on rasta livewire.we never thought we were TOLD WE WERE black IN ABAD WAY ,WE MAKE OR CREATE ANYTHING TO BE GOOD EVEN IF ITS GIVEN TO US ,PUT ON US IN A BAD WAY ,indian which ALSO means black ,indigo is a brand of the queen.whoever uses it is a slave in their own right even if mentally.im indiginous aboriginal,so if i say im indian im saying im 500-600 years old instead of indiginous aboriginal.you move about the globe under british U.N. ILLUMINATI control.THEN YOU ATTEMPT TO SOUND INTELLIGENT.REMEMBER WHEN AN WHY YOU GOT KICKED OUT OF KENYA BEFORE WITH THE EUROPEANS.YOUR ALL OVER THE WORLD IN OTHER PEOPLES LANDS CRITICIZNG THE PEOPLE WHOS LANDS FEEDS YOU.YOU DONT MENTION THE TAKING OF THE LAND BY THE RHODES FAMILY FROM THE DE BEERS FAMILY AN THEM SELLING IT ABOUT TO OTHER EUROPEAN PROSPECTORS WHO UINVADED SOUTH AFRICA TO RAPE AN AN YOU WERE THEIR SERVANTS THEY BOUGHT ALONG ,THEIR NEW NEGROES.NECRO NOT OF THE LIVING A DEAD BRAINED ZOMBIE PEOPLE AGAINST THE REAL OWNERSOF THE LAND IN SOUTH AKEBULAN……..YOU CALLED THE DALITS BLACK AN OUTCASTES AN THE ORIGINAL HINDUS ARE DALITS ,YOUR INNER CASTE SYSYEMS ALSO STOLEN FROM MOORISH SCIENCE AN CONVERTED INTO RACIST ,EUGENIC SCIENCE,MALE CHAUVANISTIC CASTE SYSTEMS THAT ,HAS THE LIGHTER SKINNED OVER THE DARKER JUST CAUSE OF SHADE .THERE IS NO ORIGIN OF THAT FROM THE ORIGINAL PEOPLE WHO CAME UP FROM THE INDUS VALLEY.YOU ARE NOT A NOBLE MUUR BUT A BRITISH/DUTCH ALBION HOER SERVING YOUR MASTERS FROM YOUR KNEES.THE WORD NEGROID STILL BEING USED BY YOU HUH ,HOW BOUT CAUCASOID ,MONGOLOID,lets stop right here we dont get along with you FROM ANCIENT TIMES,the dalits came back to akebulan FROM HINDUSTAN first to get the troglydyte chimpanzee monkey,then they grafted that monkey to creAte mankind WE HAD A WAR ABOUT THAT,YOU GRAFTING PEOPLE,WHITE PEOPLE ,YACOUB WAS JACOB IN EURO BIBLE,in the koran THE GRAFTED ARE the blue eyed,the RNA not DNA US , BOTH OF US CAUSE WE USED TO BE ONE.MUURISH PEOPLE AN ANTIQUITY.UNTIL THE VEDICS CAME FROM EUROPE.YOU ARE GETTING YOUR INFO FROM THE SAME PEOPLE WHO BOUGHT THEIR SOCIETY REJECTS ON A BOAT TO AMERCA AS INDENTURED SERVITUDE SLAVES.AN BOUGHT YOU WITH THEM IN THEIR INVASIONS OF AFRICA,WHY ARE YOU IN EVERY COLONY IN THE CARRIBEAN ALSO.WHY CAN YOU COME WHERE WE ARE TO EAT BUT WE HAVE NO OPPUTUNITIES IN YOUR LANDS EXCEPT TO DEFEND THEM IN OUR ARMIES FROM THE WEST.THE REALITY HINDUS THAT REMEMBER THEY WERE MUURS NOT BRITISH HOERS THAT GET PROMISED A PIECE OF THE PIE AS .LONG AS THEY HELP TO STEAL AN NOT REVEAL IT.MAY YOUR INTESTINES WRAP AROUND YOUR TOUNGUE ,SIEZE IT THEN BRING IT DOWN TO BE CRUSHED BY THE DIGESTIVE SYSTEM THEN THROWN AWAY AS EXCREMENT.YOCANNOT REPLACE THE DALITS AS THE ORIGINAL north asiatic MAN NO MATTER HOW MUCH CRAcKER x,y,z CHROMOSOME TALK YOU BRING unTO THE TAble,you bring CRUMBS,XYZ COME AFTER A,B,C ,WHICH AREALLTHE ORIGINMAL ASIATICS SOUTH AN NORTH,PEOPLE NEVER CAME FOM THE NORTH AN WENT SOUTH ,WE WENT FROM SOUTH TO NORTH AN WE WAS FIRST .THOSE AFTER CAME FROM NORTH TO SOUTH CAUSE THEY FROM THE NORTH CREATED IN THE SOUTH OF NORTH ASIA THEN WHATS NOW SOUTH AMERICA ,ARGENTINA ,PATAGONIA BUT THATS NOT IN YOUR REASEARCH BOOKS PUBLISHED ONL Y BY EUROPEANS OR THEIR A-ALIKE CREATIONS OF MIXEDRACE LIKE YOU SINCE YOU CLAIM TO BE INDIAN WHICH MEANT BLACK BEFORE THEY FOUND THE WEST IN 1492. RECREATIONAL RECREATION REINCARNATION IS A CRIME AGAINST THE ORIGINAL WOMBMAN AND MAN THAT MUST CEASE AND DESIST IN ORDER FOR THE PLANET TO PROPERLY BALANCE ITSELF.SUBPHRASETO DESCRIBE USTHAT ARE NOT OUR NATURAL NAMES MUST BE CHECKED EAH TIME THEY USETHE MASONIC MAGICIANS ARGUMENTSAGAINST US,FOR OVERSTAND THAT YOU ARE THE REAL ADEPTS GIVEN LESSONS BY THOSE WHO STEAL SEAL AND CONCEAL THE DEGREES THEY STOLE FROM HIRAM ABIFF WHo WAS KILLED FOR DEGREES.REALLY A MONK NAMED SYLVESTOR WAS BRIBED WITH AN SUM SIMLIAR TO 30 PIECES OF SILVER FOR 3 DEGREES.HIZZZTORY BOOKS EVEN IN UNIVERSITYS ARE NOT TELLING REALITY BUT A DERIVITIVE OF IT CALLED TRUTH ,their truth , PUBLISHERS ARE UNDEr THE YOKE OF ZION BEING FREE MASONS WHO FILTERS what information is let out to the public goyim all under measure an rule.some people think they are above that measurean rule by favors they do for measure an rule l,like maintain their bull$*&^like a bull$^&*keeper or store person.they opeate a bull%&*^ store that you have to agree to buy or buy into.look at black books by say john henrik clarke an notice in the bibliography how mayny euro books he had to read an take a s-word ,a sentance ,or a paragraph out of each of them to write one book about our hidden stolen reality of the original one and onlys.these are just the beginnings ,surface scratchings that were revealed but much moor remains hidden ny the masonic zionists who practice moorish science an call it free masonry,an give the goyim religion to fight over an be distracted
i will stand and stay on my square with jah dey my sword is drawn an today i reveal all 4 of my titles NOT THE USUAL 3 like the number 4 of standing on ONES sqaURE.ALL MUURS ARE THE NOBLES.WHO STOLE YOUR CLAIM AN SAID YOU ABANDONED IT,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, AN HOLD IT HOSTAGE WITH SHADE OF RED RUDDY MYSTIC AMAZON HUE,NOT ME OR YOU BUT VEDIC ALBIONS DO,CARBONLESS CARPETBAGGERS WHO CAME TO GYP EVERYONE THEY COULDNT BE AN CALL US ME THEY GYPSY AFTER LEARNING MY POWERS FROM ME
Poor braindead Afrocentrics.
Sometimes a little bit of education can be dangerous for simple minds…..as typified by the so-called academic Clyde Winters (nice Anglo-Saxon name by the way).
Racial genetic profiling is a widely accepted and published science. Contrary to the fancy terms Jahdey has bandied, the key genetic marker is dependent on autosomal DNA mapping. The gentic origins of upper caste Hindus, is related to haplotype R1…..standard genetic marker for Indo-Europeans…in particularly haplogroup R1b…..most common to central and eastern Europe and the Indus region. These Indo_European tribes then formed groups thoughout India and South India……as far as south as Sri-Linka. It is also common knowledge that non-Africans are genetically different from negroid Africans…….they have different unrelated ancetors……
BTW, humans have a 98% genetic relationhip to Bonnobo Apes……thats what 2% difference in genotype shows in a phenotype (external characteristics)……..
The Andamese are not Hindus, but sinno-Tibetans islanders….like the Burmese. Their DNA make-up is therefore irrelevant. The Naga people that the idiot Winters talks about, are actually people from Burma…..of oriental extraction…(check out these Naga tribes….http://www.markajohnson.com/Asiat05.html). The Naga are certainly not from Ethiopia……..The Sidi are just negroid slaves brought to India by the British…..God knows why….its not as if India needed any more low-class thrash, but there u have them….Sidis living in the bushes and jungles like animals, totally excluded from Hindhu society. It is a fallacy to things that there was a great, ancient naval Negroid migration to Europe and Asia……Negroid tribes had not even discovered iron and metals….how could they conquer any army or build a ship???
No Hindu holy book talks about Ethiopians……… the great Aryan migrations are detailed instead, focusing on the Harrapan civilizations and there are clear linguistic links between the Indo-European people, backed up by archaelogical studies…..Sanskrit being one of the root languages……so will the Afrocentric thrash please give this debate a rest…..
What studies have the Afrocentric buffoons put forth….other than finding superficial links with words and names. Please….think people….
Not that this matters………I have clear roots…….My grand-parents left the Panjab to come help develop South Africa……Every Hindu has roots….regardless of where in the world he settles. The simplest way to check this is our surnames……my surname places me in a specific region and even a village can be found.Then there is the DNA, which has been discussed. But , I was born in Africa, spillt my blood here, and that makes me a pure African.
I think it is extremely poor form of Afrocentrists to falsely denegrate South African Hindus……we have after all, together with the British helped save South Africa and develop it into the powerhouse it is now in Africa……The contribution of the Trek-Boers, is even more significant….they are the true natives people of South Africa.
The Boers or Voortrekkers, travelled into South Africa, peacefully with the intention of cultivating and developing my beloved country….but were instead tricked and murdered by cowards like the so-called Zulu king, Dingaan…..a fat stupid bastard who the current Zulu royal family descends from. South African history shows that Shaka, the founder of the Zulus, was a great admirer of the British and was happy to live side by side with them and learn…….a great man this Shaka….but then murdered by Dingaan.
It is also, widely accepted that the negroid races were not idigenous to South Africa…..they (Bantu and Nguni tribes, actually migrated from the Congo)…….we accepted these people in South Africa, and instead of thanks, all we get is whining and complaints…… I think an apology here, from the ANC and the Afrocentric retards is in order.