Comments on: The Trials and Persecution of Mungiki - The Dread Warrior Lions of Kenya - By - Jide Uwechia http://www.africaresource.com/rasta/sesostris-the-great-the-egyptian-hercules/the-trials-and-persecution-of-mungiki-the-dread-warrior-lions-of-kenya-by-jide-uwechia/ Rastafarian Views on Life, Politics and Social Issues Wed, 20 Aug 2008 08:48:16 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: jahdautta http://www.africaresource.com/rasta/sesostris-the-great-the-egyptian-hercules/the-trials-and-persecution-of-mungiki-the-dread-warrior-lions-of-kenya-by-jide-uwechia/#comment-18433 jahdautta Tue, 06 Nov 2007 01:07:07 +0000 http://www.africaresource.com/rasta/sesostris-the-great-the-egyptian-hercules/the-trials-and-persecution-of-mungiki-the-dread-warrior-lions-of-kenya-by-jide-uwechia/#comment-18433 We, of the faith of Rastafari do not condone violence. We were painted as lazy, violent and wicked by the goverment in Jamaica when our great father Mosiah Garvey started the trod. But oit is the media. I am not familiar with what "mungiki" is; but I tell you one thing: Be wary of a man that doesn't want to have the simplest life calling himself Rasta; simplicity is what I&I use to survive. Selassie I bless. Jah love. Selam. We, of the faith of Rastafari do not condone violence. We were painted as lazy, violent and wicked by the goverment in Jamaica when our great father Mosiah Garvey started the trod. But oit is the media. I am not familiar with what “mungiki” is; but I tell you one thing: Be wary of a man that doesn’t want to have the simplest life calling himself Rasta; simplicity is what I&I use to survive. Selassie I bless. Jah love. Selam.

]]> By: andrew munene http://www.africaresource.com/rasta/sesostris-the-great-the-egyptian-hercules/the-trials-and-persecution-of-mungiki-the-dread-warrior-lions-of-kenya-by-jide-uwechia/#comment-17327 andrew munene Sun, 12 Aug 2007 13:16:49 +0000 http://www.africaresource.com/rasta/sesostris-the-great-the-egyptian-hercules/the-trials-and-persecution-of-mungiki-the-dread-warrior-lions-of-kenya-by-jide-uwechia/#comment-17327 I think this article talks on one side of the story that is the positive side of mingiki.mungiki and rastafarisim are very different as rastafarisim advocates for peace,love and unity while mungiki based on violence and tribalistic as it only considers kikuyus as the only tribe in kenya.next tyme get facts or ask people on the ground. I think this article talks on one side of the story that is the positive side of mingiki.mungiki and rastafarisim are very different as rastafarisim advocates for peace,love and unity while mungiki based on violence and tribalistic as it only considers kikuyus as the only tribe in kenya.next tyme get facts or ask people on the ground.

]]> By: Proud Kenyan http://www.africaresource.com/rasta/sesostris-the-great-the-egyptian-hercules/the-trials-and-persecution-of-mungiki-the-dread-warrior-lions-of-kenya-by-jide-uwechia/#comment-16931 Proud Kenyan Tue, 17 Jul 2007 09:54:40 +0000 http://www.africaresource.com/rasta/sesostris-the-great-the-egyptian-hercules/the-trials-and-persecution-of-mungiki-the-dread-warrior-lions-of-kenya-by-jide-uwechia/#comment-16931 Sam, don't be melodramatic man...our country is going through a rough patch occasioned by the social pressures we are facing at the moment, I acknowledge that, but that doesn't mean that there is something intrinsically wrong with it or us...It's interesting that you think there was progress under Kenyatta when in fact, the foundation, if you will, of the social malaise we are experiencing was laid then by Kenyatta's actions. A point about the "west", at one point, they too went through the same thing. Yes, Britain, Europe and America were once violent and unstable places but they sorted themselves out and that's what we need to do as well...not run away! Sam, don’t be melodramatic man…our country is going through a rough patch occasioned by the social pressures we are facing at the moment, I acknowledge that, but that doesn’t mean that there is something intrinsically wrong with it or us…It’s interesting that you think there was progress under Kenyatta when in fact, the foundation, if you will, of the social malaise we are experiencing was laid then by Kenyatta’s actions.
A point about the “west”, at one point, they too went through the same thing. Yes, Britain, Europe and America were once violent and unstable places but they sorted themselves out and that’s what we need to do as well…not run away!

]]> By: Sam Onatch http://www.africaresource.com/rasta/sesostris-the-great-the-egyptian-hercules/the-trials-and-persecution-of-mungiki-the-dread-warrior-lions-of-kenya-by-jide-uwechia/#comment-16903 Sam Onatch Sun, 15 Jul 2007 13:48:07 +0000 http://www.africaresource.com/rasta/sesostris-the-great-the-egyptian-hercules/the-trials-and-persecution-of-mungiki-the-dread-warrior-lions-of-kenya-by-jide-uwechia/#comment-16903 Kenya and it's politics is something that amuses me very much. I believe the motto in this third world country is 'peace, love and unity': yet, Kenya is a violent and unstable place, there is no shred of love anywhere, and unity? gimme a break, with these ignorant politicians pushing forward tribal politics where's the unity. Kenya is on a one way course- downwards into poverty and death. After Kenyatta, there has been no progress at all in this godforbidden country. This country has the biggest slum in the world, I repeat, in the world. The wise, educated Kenyan should realise that their talents are wasted in this cesspit of a country, and they should make every attemp to leave this hellhole, perhaps to Europe or America where they may stand a chance of encountering an intelligent person. Thank you. Kenya and it’s politics is something that amuses me very much. I believe the motto in this third world country is ‘peace, love and unity’: yet, Kenya is a violent and unstable place, there is no shred of love anywhere, and unity? gimme a break, with these ignorant politicians pushing forward tribal politics where’s the unity.
Kenya is on a one way course- downwards into poverty and death.
After Kenyatta, there has been no progress at all in this godforbidden country. This country has the biggest slum in the world, I repeat, in the world. The wise, educated Kenyan should realise that their talents are wasted in this cesspit of a country, and they should make every attemp to leave this hellhole, perhaps to Europe or America where they may stand a chance of encountering an intelligent person. Thank you.

]]> By: Kip http://www.africaresource.com/rasta/sesostris-the-great-the-egyptian-hercules/the-trials-and-persecution-of-mungiki-the-dread-warrior-lions-of-kenya-by-jide-uwechia/#comment-16867 Kip Thu, 12 Jul 2007 10:30:58 +0000 http://www.africaresource.com/rasta/sesostris-the-great-the-egyptian-hercules/the-trials-and-persecution-of-mungiki-the-dread-warrior-lions-of-kenya-by-jide-uwechia/#comment-16867 what av you gus to say the killing and mutilating of the young? Mungiki should stop their think and do somthing good for the poor they claim to fight for while doing the contrary. i am sick and tired of them and i am thinking of acquiring a gun so that i can kill the few i know. i would like to urge kenyans to rise and fight mungiki like they fought for Uhuru. Lets kill them too, a sword for a sword and that is the language they understand well. what av you gus to say the killing and mutilating of the young? Mungiki should stop their think and do somthing good for the poor they claim to fight for while doing the contrary. i am sick and tired of them and i am thinking of acquiring a gun so that i can kill the few i know. i would like to urge kenyans to rise and fight mungiki like they fought for Uhuru. Lets kill them too, a sword for a sword and that is the language they understand well.

]]> By: proud Kenyan http://www.africaresource.com/rasta/sesostris-the-great-the-egyptian-hercules/the-trials-and-persecution-of-mungiki-the-dread-warrior-lions-of-kenya-by-jide-uwechia/#comment-16639 proud Kenyan Mon, 25 Jun 2007 09:55:34 +0000 http://www.africaresource.com/rasta/sesostris-the-great-the-egyptian-hercules/the-trials-and-persecution-of-mungiki-the-dread-warrior-lions-of-kenya-by-jide-uwechia/#comment-16639 would you guys please try and engage with the content of my argument instead of the ad hominems...how is that constructive. You don't have to like me particularly, I may have a worthless degree as intimated by some of you and other things but that doesn't detract from the point i'm making and neither does calling me a babie or a collaborator. so far after all you've said, none of you have actually refuted the point I have been making! would you guys please try and engage with the content of my argument instead of the ad hominems…how is that constructive. You don’t have to like me particularly, I may have a worthless degree as intimated by some of you and other things but that doesn’t detract from the point i’m making and neither does calling me a babie or a collaborator. so far after all you’ve said, none of you have actually refuted the point I have been making!

]]> By: ilexxo http://www.africaresource.com/rasta/sesostris-the-great-the-egyptian-hercules/the-trials-and-persecution-of-mungiki-the-dread-warrior-lions-of-kenya-by-jide-uwechia/#comment-16628 ilexxo Sun, 24 Jun 2007 22:13:48 +0000 http://www.africaresource.com/rasta/sesostris-the-great-the-egyptian-hercules/the-trials-and-persecution-of-mungiki-the-dread-warrior-lions-of-kenya-by-jide-uwechia/#comment-16628 Half the degrees are as credible as the paper theys printed on(no pun intended) Half the degrees are as credible as the paper theys printed on(no pun intended)

]]> By: mukinder http://www.africaresource.com/rasta/sesostris-the-great-the-egyptian-hercules/the-trials-and-persecution-of-mungiki-the-dread-warrior-lions-of-kenya-by-jide-uwechia/#comment-16627 mukinder Sun, 24 Jun 2007 22:12:11 +0000 http://www.africaresource.com/rasta/sesostris-the-great-the-egyptian-hercules/the-trials-and-persecution-of-mungiki-the-dread-warrior-lions-of-kenya-by-jide-uwechia/#comment-16627 Mau mau's vision was removal of oppressor(& collabo's) from Cape to Cairo(not jus Kenya).I was born n brought up in eastlands , that dont mean a thing, Quite a number of places & people around there that have Babylonish(collaborator)tendencies,as can be found in any ghetto,or hard core in any Mansion.True some misfits do crime in the name of mungiki,jus like any bombings are in the name of Al Qaeda, how true, only the authorities know.You certainly have no idea about what mungiki is, as opposed to 'mungich',& your rants 'n' raves,choice of words make you out a Babie(colonial mentality),and that is what da real mungiki is out to remove... yes ,even in the ghetto Mau mau’s vision was removal of oppressor(& collabo’s) from Cape to Cairo(not jus Kenya).I was born n brought up in eastlands , that dont mean a thing, Quite a number of places & people around there that have Babylonish(collaborator)tendencies,as can be found in any ghetto,or hard core in any Mansion.True some misfits do crime in the name of mungiki,jus like any bombings are in the name of Al Qaeda, how true, only the authorities know.You certainly have no idea about what mungiki is, as opposed to ‘mungich’,& your rants ‘n’ raves,choice of words make you out a Babie(colonial mentality),and that is what da real mungiki is out to remove… yes ,even in the ghetto

]]> By: proud Kenyan http://www.africaresource.com/rasta/sesostris-the-great-the-egyptian-hercules/the-trials-and-persecution-of-mungiki-the-dread-warrior-lions-of-kenya-by-jide-uwechia/#comment-16609 proud Kenyan Sat, 23 Jun 2007 12:45:53 +0000 http://www.africaresource.com/rasta/sesostris-the-great-the-egyptian-hercules/the-trials-and-persecution-of-mungiki-the-dread-warrior-lions-of-kenya-by-jide-uwechia/#comment-16609 Jahdey...right you know everything and anyone who disagrees with you is silly, why don't you try positing a coherent argument to prove your case instead of resorting to ad hominem attacks...it just makes you seem petty, spiteful and ignorant. ilexxo, i do know about the mau mau, I have a degree in Kenyan history from the University of Nairobi(and in fact, one of my lecturers had been in the mau mau) and that war was not as black and white(pun not intended)as most people would like to think! I don't have space or time to go into it now but it was as much a civil war as it was a a fight for independence, and oh, something else most people overlook, the mau mau actually lost the war...that's why we have people like Michuki, Kiraitu Murungi et al in government now. What concerns me most is that the Mungiki hurt the people they claim to be fighting for the most(the poor and the dispossesed) look at the protection rackets they are running in the githach and koch, how is that helping the slum dwellers...and if you think that the Mungiki are fighting against the elites, you are mistaken my friend, it is these elites who are behind mungiki and are using them in their struggles for power...that's why they came out in support of Uhuru Kenyatta in the last election, son of the man who betrayed the mau mau...how's that for a continuation of the mau mau struggle? And by the way, i'm not some posh guy pontificating from some mansion in Runda eager to maintain the status quo, I was born and brought up in eastlands, Nairobi and if you know anything about Kenya, you should know what that means, I realise that our society is facing massive social pressures and something needs to be done to alleviate them, but Mungiki...that,s not the way! Jahdey…right you know everything and anyone who disagrees with you is silly, why don’t you try positing a coherent argument to prove your case instead of resorting to ad hominem attacks…it just makes you seem petty, spiteful and ignorant.

ilexxo, i do know about the mau mau, I have a degree in Kenyan history from the University of Nairobi(and in fact, one of my lecturers had been in the mau mau) and that war was not as black and white(pun not intended)as most people would like to think! I don’t have space or time to go into it now but it was as much a civil war as it was a a fight for independence, and oh, something else most people overlook, the mau mau actually lost the war…that’s why we have people like Michuki, Kiraitu Murungi et al in government now.
What concerns me most is that the Mungiki hurt the people they claim to be fighting for the most(the poor and the dispossesed) look at the protection rackets they are running in the githach and koch, how is that helping the slum dwellers…and if you think that the Mungiki are fighting against the elites, you are mistaken my friend, it is these elites who are behind mungiki and are using them in their struggles for power…that’s why they came out in support of Uhuru Kenyatta in the last election, son of the man who betrayed the mau mau…how’s that for a continuation of the mau mau struggle?
And by the way, i’m not some posh guy pontificating from some mansion in Runda eager to maintain the status quo, I was born and brought up in eastlands, Nairobi and if you know anything about Kenya, you should know what that means, I realise that our society is facing massive social pressures and something needs to be done to alleviate them, but Mungiki…that,s not the way!

]]> By: Jahdey http://www.africaresource.com/rasta/sesostris-the-great-the-egyptian-hercules/the-trials-and-persecution-of-mungiki-the-dread-warrior-lions-of-kenya-by-jide-uwechia/#comment-16600 Jahdey Sat, 23 Jun 2007 00:44:38 +0000 http://www.africaresource.com/rasta/sesostris-the-great-the-egyptian-hercules/the-trials-and-persecution-of-mungiki-the-dread-warrior-lions-of-kenya-by-jide-uwechia/#comment-16600 ilexxo That bwoy is neither Kenyan nor proud. Ah some weak-heart, colonial mentality squeaking pitifully in cyber-space. One Love ilexxo Jahdey ilexxo

That bwoy is neither Kenyan nor proud. Ah some weak-heart, colonial mentality squeaking pitifully in cyber-space.

One Love ilexxo

Jahdey

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