Early and most Cro-Magnon’s like the Mechtoids had tropical traits of limbs and facial features any one that proclaims otherwise should at least show the physical anthropological proof of it. There was no direct relationship between those robust African looking population and the archaic, or broader headed or European types present in Europe during the Mesolithic just as Brace has reiterated.

The ‘R’ Y-dna is only found natively among one small tribal population that going back into history is along a trade route. The remainder of subsuharan africa from the tip of the south african coast to the bottom of the sahara desert is OVERWHELMINGLY ”E” and a minority of ”A”, Y-dna..

this is why the case is more likely of backmigration into africa along the known trade routes producing this small tribal anomoly on one small region with ‘R’- also, note, this ‘R’ is no more closely connnected to the European clades than either are to the pakistani/indian clades or ”R”.. they are not the same clade, although they commonly derive long ago.

The bantu conquest of west africa is known for certain to have displaced and enslaved millions of Khiosan (Hg A)
and could also account for the massive depopulation of the cameroon (Hg R) population at the same time period.. the enslavement of the cameroon indigenous population, as with the Khoisan, ccould also have introduced the negroid phenotype into the cameroon R population.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/07/080715204741.htm

“…Most SUB-SAHARAN AFRICANS belong to subclades of E OTHER than E1b1b, while MOST NON-AFRICANS who belong to haplogroup E belong to its E1b1b subclade. Greeks and Romans have Indo European Aryan White DNA(haploid) markers and the Ancient and Modern Egyptians have Arab Semitic White DNA(haploid) markers- subclade E1b1b.”

Jahdey roars:

Clyde, you are such an unschooled idiot! Read the quotation below and the citation:

“The mutations M2/P1/M180, on the one hand, and M35/M215, on the other, further subdivide E3 in two monophyletic haplogroups: E3a and E3b. Both haplogroups are frequent in Africa (Underhill et al. 2000; Cruciani et al. 2002), although, to date, only E3b has also been observed in Europe (Semino et al. 2000) and western Asia (Underhill et al. 2000; Cinnio?lu et al. 2004). Recently, it has been proposed that E3b originated in sub-Saharan Africa and expanded into the Near East and northern Africa at the end of the Pleistocene (Underhill et al. 2001). E3b lineages would have then been introduced from the Near East into southern Europe by immigrant farmers, during the Neolithic expansion (Hammer et al. 1998; Semino et al. 2000; Underhill et al. 2001).”

“The three main subclades of haplogroup E3b (E-M78, E-M81, and E-M34) and the paragroup E-M35* are not homogeneously distributed on the African continent: E-M78 has been observed in both northern and eastern Africa, E-M81 is restricted to northern Africa, E-M34 is common only in eastern Africa, and E-M35* is shared by eastern and southern Africans (Cruciani et al. 2002). Given the strong geographic structuring observed for the four subsets of E3b within Africa, it is possible that different E3b lineages also have different frequency profiles in western Eurasia and that the evolutionary events underlying the introduction of E3b chromosomes in this area from Africa were not as simple (Rosser et al. 2000; Richards et al. 2002; Jobling and Tyler-Smith 2003) as previously proposed (Hammer et al. 1998; Semino et al. 2000; Underhill et al. 2001)…”

Note: E1b1b is same thing as E-M215 also known as E3.

See: Fulvio Cruciani et al. Am J Hum Genet. 2004 May; 74(5): 1014–1022.

http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=1181964

ETHNIC HAPLOMARKERS

Caucasoid-E (only subclade E1b1b is a Caucasoid marker-all other sublades of E are Negroid haplomarkers), F(Semites),H, I, J(Semites-1 & 2), K, L3(Semites),T, U, V(Semites), W, X, Y

Mongoloid(anthropologists now include American Indians(Red) and Malaysians(brown) ethnicities in this group- C, D, F, G, Q

Negroid- A,B,E(except for subclade E1b1b which is a Caucasoid haplomarker), L1 & L2, M & N-all groups have these, but certain subclades are restricted to Blacks)

M, N – is present in ALL ethnicities, but certain subclades are restricted to only Blacks
P, R, Z – Caucasoid and Mongoloids only, not Blacks

E1a and E2 are found almost exclusively in Africa, and only E1b1b is observed in significant frequencies in Europe and western Asia in addition to Africa. Most SUB-SAHARAN AFRICANS belong to subclades of E OTHER than E1b1b, while MOST NON-AFRICANS who belong to haplogroup E belong to its E1b1b subclade. Greeks and Romans have Indo European Aryan White DNA(haploid) markers and the Ancient and Modern Egyptians have Arab Semitic White DNA(haploid) markers- subclade E1b1b. Arabs in North Africa are Semitic White, and, technically, can be called White, not, Black, Africans. Greece and Rome are a part of Europe, so Greeks and Romans would be called Indo European Aryan White. According to Wikipedia, “Most Sub-Saharan Africans belong to subclades of E other than E1b1b, while most non-Africans who belong to haplogroup E belong to its E1b1b subclade.” (Citing Fulvio Cruciani et al, Phylogeographic Analysis of Haplogroup E1b1b (E-M215) Y Chromosomes Reveals Multiple Migratory Events Within and Out Of Africa, Am. J. Hum. Genet, p. 74)

Thus we read in 1990 as said by Krogman decades earlier,”"Examination of the skulls which have been found on several sites in Anatolia shows that in the third millennium the population was preponderantly long-headed or dolichocephalic, with only a small admixture of brachycephalic types. In the second millennium the proportion of brachycephalic skulls increases to about 50 percent.”” (6) Gurney, O.R.; The Hittites, Penguin Books, 1990, First Ed. 1952 p. 284

The second millenium B.C. is very late in history to be showing up in significant numbers in the world of civilization especially when you are supposed to be the father of it all. This is just going to take a lot of time to sink in to some peoples’ heads. These later Eurasiatics start showing up in the Mediterranean or North Africa at this time as well although apparently never made it to parts of the southern Levant or Arabia as late as 1,000 years ago as you say Jahdey.

Jahdey responds: “Maybe. But the phenotype of the middle easterners was black, Ethiopoid exclusively between 45,000 years ago until 1,000 years ago. Even today, majority population of many middle eastern countries is black, Ethipoid. When you add two and two, it would appear that IJ was an archaic gene of another group of Ethiopoids that moved from Africa into middle east.”