The Black Romans — BBC Article
The Black Romans
Was Septimius Severus the 1st Black man to rule England?
Did you know that Black and Asian people first came to the North East in Roman times? Or that England was once ruled by a Libyan? These and many more historical facts were revealed as part of BBC Black History Month.
Early Black History
Emperor Septimius Severus wasn’t the only Black Roman in Britain. There were other African officers, soldiers … stationed on and around Hadrian’s Wall in the 3rd century.
From the 9th century onwards, there are records of Vikings bringing Moroccans to the region.
There’s a gap in the recording of black presence in the North East of England for nearly 400 years until the start of the 16th century.
Black and Asian presence in the North East of England can be traced back to Septimius Severus, a North African Libyan, who ruled England as Roman Emperor between 193-211 AD.
Severus was unique amongst the Roman emperors as being the first Black citizen to hold the highest office in the empire.
The most celebrated example of an early Black presence in Britain is the case of the Roman military garrison on Hadrian’s Wall in Cumbria.
A 4th century inscription tells us that the Roman auxiliary unit, Numerus Maurorum Aurelianorum, was stationed at Aballava, modern day Burgh-by-Sands.
This unit had been mustered in the Roman province of Mauretania in North Africa, modern Morocco.
Genetic evidence
It was recently suggested that African DNA might be found to be present in the local populations near to Hadrian’s Wall.
However, this would not conclusively show that the Black Roman soldiers on the wall intermarried with the local population because of the problem of ‘admixture’.
Admixture is a process whereby the DNA of a population becomes diluted over time and it cannot be shown at what period in time that dilution took place.
African Legacy
During his time in office, Septimius Severus legalised marriage during military service.
There is also evidence that that some Black Romans married, had children, and remained in Britain after their tour of duty.
Skeletons unearthed in a Romano British Cemetery outside York revealed the limb proportions of some of the men suggested that they were Black Africans.
Perhaps they might be considered to be Britain’s first Diaspora people, making Cumbria the birthplace of Black British history?
Original: The Black Romans
June 21st, 2007 at 1:39 am
Sigh. When the Romans defeated the Carthaginians(who were originally Phoenicians ie Lebanese), they remained Carthage “Africa” after the Roman general/senator Publius Scipio Africus. “Africans” therefore meant only those people who came from what is roughly present-day Tunisia and Northwest Libya. They were NOT black. The Libyans in antiguity were known for the blueness of their eyes. There are countless examples of busts, mosaics, statues etc that show exactly how these Africans, Libyans, Numidians looked. The famous bust of Septimius Severus shows a “Middle-Eastern” or “Arabic”-looking man. NOT black.
Look, as an analogy the word “gay” used to mean “carefree” or “lighthearted”. Today it means “homosexual”. If somebody in 2007 reads a book from say 1800 which describes a man as “gay”, the modern reader would need to know that “gay” meant something very different then. In the same way, ignoring the 2 000-year old meaning of “African”, and applying the Oprah Winfrey-meaning of African to people who were around in the time of the New testament, is at best simply ignorant, and at worst, outright deception.
November 8th, 2007 at 3:09 am
Well , as usual many people have negative things to say about this article because it challenges most modern day principles and ideas as it quite clearly states that BLACK people were here long before the majority of the modern day caucasion population would like to accept !
Ignorance is Obvious .
December 28th, 2007 at 10:04 pm
Ditto to the 2nd and 3rd replies. I was reading a similar debate regarding the Moors in Spain and the similar debate like the first replier is all too predictable.
I have to sit back and laugh when people assume that Northern Africans in general aren’t or were never black. The analogy that I use for Egypt being a black population is the native people of this country.
Before Columbus accident landed on the shores of this side of the world, it was populated with what they calleds Indians. The U.S. over the centuries the natives have been either killed off by murder, disease, mixed with white or put on reservations. This has caused a majority to be the most smallest of the ethnic/racial population in this country. The Chinese have a larger population that the native people here.
This is what had happened to the black Africans in northern Europe. Egypt is a prime example of Arabs and whites entering the country and mixing with them so much that you’d never think that it was once rulled by blacks similar to the native Americans.
Btw, the same analogy can be used with the blacks who once out populated the Spaniards in Mexico before the Spanish settled. Now the black Mexicans live in a southern part of Mexico without a voice.
I did a search and this site popped up. I remember some years ago, Richard Roundtree, the guy who played the black detective Shaft, played this character in a movie. Which brings up another point that many whites try to claim that they know. The blacks Africans once did fight and ruled with the Romans, and many were sent over to Ireland. This would also explain the kinky hair and afros that many Irish have.
Btw, the late President Sadat was black with the Arab blood. A common face in his homeland and what the Moors were mixed with, but were described by the Arabs, “Dark as Ink.”
December 28th, 2007 at 10:09 pm
Almost forgot, black Africans entered Europe way before they made contact with the Romans. Read a book titled, “black spark white fire.” by a Jewish author Terry Poe.
February 19th, 2008 at 10:39 am
Please…This entire “black myth” is starting to get down right ignorant. If you want to in some way gift a lift to a black kids spirit, don’t lie to him. All one has to do is look at present day Sub-Saharan Africa and they would SEE the true African. The true African has never created a written language, invented even the wheel or any other form of “civilization”. people need to study ancient EUROPEAN, ASIAN and MIDDLE EASTERN history because the people from those parts of the world have advanced. I don’t need to study ancient African history because all I have to do is look at some National Geographic magazines of today. The negroids now are the same as in “ancient” times…living in mud huts, drinking cow urine and throwing spears.
February 19th, 2008 at 11:17 am
To the person who wrote “TheTruth”
Good thing it’s your truth–not mines. It’s this type of ignorance that’s running wild loose today in this society. You wouldn’t know the truth if it were a poisionous snake looking you dead in the eyes. Peace.
February 19th, 2008 at 12:00 pm
To the fake pinkie who calls himself thetruth, hear the real truth:
We will not get caught in some race baiting exercise with a moronic, feckless fool from the backwaters of working class struggle and poverty.
Your wretchedness which you project as racist hate of Africans has nothing to do with Africans. Instead they have every thing to do with the brutal policies of your political and economic masters, the aristocracy and business captains of the western world, who have refused to share any meaning part of the loot they stole from African countries with you.
Your problem is that your mind is full of money worries, you are unemployed, poorly educated and have no hope of getting out of the dump your life will be stuck in till the day your wasted mind and body will be burnt in a crematorium.
But being the coward you are, you are unable to direct your anger to those that have mutilated you. Instead you vent it in a direction you have been programmed to consider politically correct.
The psychological injury that has left you in this psychotic mess can only be healed when seek the true emancipation of your disguised, glorified and democratized enslavement.
Go find a day job…White (pink) trash!
Jahdey
February 19th, 2008 at 12:48 pm
LOL this is hilarious. In another article that mentioned original Arabs as blacks, I said “whats next, are you guys going to make claims that Romans were black too?”… I guess my prediction came correct, LMAO. This is downright hilarious. These rastafarians claim Black kings ruled Scotland, blacks made the Roman Empire and blacks were the original Arabs. Its hilarious and stupid at the same time. Ive never seen such ignorance in my life, people trying to distort the truth in order to make the black race look more superior than the others. Its called “stealing the glory from other people” and thats exactly what rastafarians are doing. Keep lying to yourselves. North Africans were white, and never needed to be black. Think of it from a scientific perspective, theres no need to have a black pigment in your DNA if youre living in North Africa. Blacks became black because they moved to central Africa where the sun shines at a 90 degree angle all year round. Now they are trying to prove black presence in every known civilization on Earth. I wont be surprised if blacks start claiming the Chinese Empire as their own.
February 19th, 2008 at 2:06 pm
Muha-madder
That article on Black Romans came from BBC-News site. It was written by Europeans as a historical record.
Your Islamo-facist mind does not see that, rather in your impotent jealousy you would rather that the History of African people be hidden away.
But, yes, this article was written by highly educated European who should know better according to you, than listen to RastafarI stories.
Muhamud you little Islamo-facist troll, Rasta never wrote the article above…your white masters did. It came from BBC!!!
Search for it on BBC News website.
Muha-muddy you pitiful wretched terrorist, here is a link for Black Chinese written by Chinese Professor based in Peking Prof Jin Li:
http://www.africaresource.com/rasta/sesostris-the-great-the-egyptian-hercules/ancient-black-chinese-from-east-africa-by-prof-jin-li-2/
Jahdey
February 19th, 2008 at 5:07 pm
Its funny how you start namecalling people when you lose your temper, I guess its a common habit of the originals of this planet. Haha. Wheres the link to this article, it doesnt seem to be working anymore or was it made up by the pro-rastafarians? Another funny thing, if it was written by my “white masters” then why are you believing their stories? Maybe the article writer had is wrong.. haha it just proves how hypocrtical you are.
February 19th, 2008 at 5:17 pm
Jahdey….
Poor, poor ignorant blackie…So eager to etch your place in the civilised world, yet you niggers do it on the backs of others. You notice that if you really want to start the name calling I will, nigger. If you want to discuss the FACTS, I will do that too.
The bulk of the population of Roman Africa was invariably composed of three chief elements: the indigenous Berber tribes ( http://www.arab.de/arabinfo/berbers.htm ), the ancient Carthaginians of Phoenician origin and the Roman colonists. The Berber tribes, whose racial unity is attested by their common spoken language and by the comparatively numerous Berber inscriptions that have come down to us, bore in ancient times the generic names of Numidians, Gaetulians and Moors or Maurusiani. Herodotus mentions a great number of these tribes. During the Roman period, according to Pliny, there were settlements of 26 indigenous tribes extending from the Ampsaga as far as Cyrenaica. The much more detailed list of Ptolemy enumerates 39 indigenous tribes in the province of Africa and 25 in Mauretania Caesariensis. Ammianus Marcellinus, Procopius and Flavius Cresconius Corippus give still further names. Besides the Afri (Aourigha) of the territory of Carthage, the principal tribes that took part in the wars against the Romans were the Lotophagi, the Garamantes, the Maces, the Nasamones in the regions of the S.E., the Misulani or Musulamii (whence the name Mussulman), the Massyli and the Massaesyli in the E., who were neighbours of the Moors. The non-nomads of these Libyan tribes dwelt in huts made of stakes supporting plaited mats of rush or asphodel. These dwellings, which were called mapalia, are the modern gourbis. African epigraphy has revealed the names of some of their deities: deus invictus Aulisva; the god Motmanius, associated with Mercury; the god Lilleus; Baldir Augustus; Kautus pater; the goddess Gilva, identified with Tellus, and Ifru Augustus (Tissot i. 486). The Johannis of Corippus mentions three native divinities: Sinifere, Mastiman and Gurzil. There were also local divinities in all the principal districts. The rock bas-reliefs and other monuments showing native divinities are rare, and give only very summary representations. Dolmens, however, occur in great numbers in Tunisia and the province of Constantine. Tumuli, too, are found throughout northern Africa, the”most celebrated being that near Cherchel, the Kubr-er-Rumia (” tomb of the Christian lady “), which was regarded by Pomponius Mela as the royal burying-place of the kings of Numidia.
None of those people were Sub-Saharan niggers…fool
February 19th, 2008 at 5:55 pm
TheTruth aka Pinkie Arse
It appears you are just half educated. A half baked pink-white trash is the most poisonous piece of junk that defaces earth. But more later.
Your attempt at intellectual posturing leaves me feeling even more sorry for your pink arse. Why? Because you do not understand that the sources you just cited, the cities and regions you just named and the etymology of the names you just referenced all indicate the noble Moor whom jealous bums like you would call Niggers. Niggaz was a good man.
Africa is one continent and the sooner you understand that it is one big giant land mass the better for you.
Africans live in Africa and they are all brown skinned in fact. Various shades of brown but brown still, yet brown. Very radically different from your pale pink hairy arse.
Call them sub-saharans, call them supra-saharans, call them hamites or niggaz or whatever euphemism you please, the unity of our continent is written in blood and DNA, written in language and culture, written in our history, established by its music and religion, written in huge stone boulders. The Spinx of Egypty was a niggaz too.
Rich westerners who have been to good and exclusive schools and have trained in the classic arts and philosophy all understand and acknowledge the pre-eminence of ancient so called Black Africans (so-called today) whose true names are the noble Moors.
Europe learned science, and culture from the Noble Moors. Go search for the works of the best and most famous European painters like Rosseau, then you will see that your masters of the yore, the Noble Moors, are those whom you so cavalierly term the Niggaz of today.
But I have seen the light. I am dark and beautiful. Noble Moor. Rastafari. Your Master from Yore to Eternity. I know you feel I vibes!
Thatz the real truth. Remember this, pinkie, remember this!
Jahdey
February 19th, 2008 at 6:31 pm
HAHA! Again, your niggar-ese can’t comprehend that I realize that some of these people were African, just as the Ancient Egyptians were Africans, yet they were not the negroid race, buck nigger of Sub-Saharan African. Is that a little too hard for that inferior brain to understand? I CLEARLY pointed out that they were not SUB-SAHARAN Africans. If you really believe that Northern Africans are Sub-Saharan Africans, travel over to Egypt as I have, walk up to any Egyptian, as I have, and ask him or her if they are African. You will probably find your nigger ass strung up. Do you know why? Egyptians, and most other Northern African’s despise the Sub-Saharan African. “The well-documented cultural poverty of Africa before contact with whites or Arabs is almost certainly due to low average intelligence. No sub-Saharan people had the wheel, a written language, mechanical devices, multi-story buildings, or a calendar. Their words for counting consisted of one, two, few, and many, though some tribes could count to seven by combining twos and ones.”
There are three main races: “Mongoloids”, “Caucasoids” and “Negroids”…The former, Asians, N. Africans and Middle Easterners, having the largest of brains and higher average IQ’s…And the latter, negroids, Sub-Saharan Africans, have the smallest brains and lowest IQ’s.
Yet you dumb niggers want the world to believe that the TRUE Black Sub-Saharan nigger, somehow built the pyramids, invented mathamatics and developed what would one day be the civilized world, yet you niggers decided you had had enough, wnet back to Sub-Saharan Africa, sat on your asses, invented nothing, not even a written language and now beg for everything the rest of the world creates on it’s own?
Now THAT is one dumb nigger…nigger
February 19th, 2008 at 6:38 pm
BTW, nigger..here are your Moors:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:PLATE1BX.jpg
http://www.maldivesroyalfamily.com/Images/lanka_moors.jpg
http://www.gosahara.org/moors.jpg
February 19th, 2008 at 8:09 pm
Pink-Arse
Here are the Moors:
The Moor’s head: http://images.google.ca/images?hl=en&q=moor+flag+corsican&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi
http://www.africaresource.com/rasta/sesostris-the-great-the-egyptian-hercules/medieval-europe-before-the-advent-of-the-black-moors-of-spain/
Sorry to disappoint you. But those Moors you posted although Hassaniya Arabs in actuality are so suffused with Black African blood that their phenotype matches mine and those of my sisters. Those your so-called Moors are Black Africans fool. They are not pink and hairy like you, they are brown like me. I am not pink and hairy like you!
According to Hairy Pinky : …The well-documented cultural poverty of Africa before contact with whites or Arabs is almost certainly due to low average intelligence. No sub-Saharan people had the wheel, a written language, mechanical devices, multi-story buildings, or a calendar…”
The Lower Class gutter snipe (aka Hairy Pinky) does not realize that writing began in Africa. the ignorant Neanderthal has not heard of the Heiroglyphics of Meroe, Ethiopia and Egypt! Even the Sumerians aka the Black heads, Black Africans who settled Mesopotamia from Africa, they invented the cunniform writing.
Africa actually has more writing systems than any other area of the world. We have Ethiopian Geez, we have the Egyptian heiroglyphics and demotic, we have the written Amazigh, we have the Nsibidi of Nigeria, the Via scripts of Liberia, we have the Uli symbols also from Nigeria. Phonecians adapted Kusitic writing skills, gave it to the Greeks who passed it on to Rome. Actually, it is Europe that never developed any writing system except what it copied from Africans. There were thousand year old libraries in Black Africa before Europe saw its first books.
The wheel was invented in Africa by Africans and taken all over the world in prehistory. Just like the Blacks invented agriculture, city building, mining and stone cutting, Black Africans made the first wheels. Where in Europe was the wheel invented?
Multi-story buildings were first seen in ancient Egypt, Ethiopia, Yemen, and Pemba on the East African coast. I know you have never heard of Mapungwe in South Africa nor the Great Zimbabwe. Where was the first multi-story European buildings? Europeans could not construct anything durable until the Templar Knights returned from Jerusalem then ruled by the Moors and the Saracens.
Sub-Saharan Africa is a region of Africa. It is not a race.
Pink bad hairy man…Black Africans live right across Africa since the beginning of time. It is idle to deny reality. When you are reduced to qualifying the morphology of Africans based on some whimsical rule…it is time to remind you of objective reality. Black Africans own Africa from Congo to Libya, from Cairo to Johannesburg. We never shared ancient Africa with any pink guys like you.
Yes, but we shared Europe with you. We live in Europe through our half breed children of Southern Europe. The French Spainiards and italians still display a Black man’s head on their cultural flags. It is called the Moor’s head. Look for it on goggle. Black genes everywhere…even in your wretched pink bluish veins in the colder paler parts of Europe.
We are your fathers, your teachers, your masters, and your eventual salvation.
You claim you went to Egypt but I know your hairy pink neanderthal arse has never left the cold climes of your unemployment-ridden trailer quarters somewhere in northwest Europe. When you ever get to see the world, you will marvel at how jaundiced your world view is.
You sound like you need some spice to help you liven up. Some colour will help out this winter, and your shrink is still there to make money off you.
Now go get some tan…and take your medication along too. Neanderthal fool!
Jahdey
March 4th, 2008 at 4:56 pm
all u racist people u want to hide the truth because deep down u know your race stole everything from the african race u don’t want to know the truth thats why the world is at war now because the white,jewish and arab race at war with each other over what the black man history u fight to keep everything hiden but in the end the black race will be on top again
March 19th, 2008 at 3:29 pm
Funny thing how can such level of humanism and immaturity be combined in a same train of thought. Too bad we disregard the word “ignorance” altogether, when we are all ignorants in a way…
I certainly see some truth in both TheTruth and Jahdey, and while this bit of cyberspace gets SEO, the lesser educated are out there, not able to tell the difference between Carthaginians and Moors. Guess I’ll keep doing my research elsewhere, in search of kinder answers…
March 19th, 2008 at 4:24 pm
Jahdey;
You need to cool down man! These people are just yankin your chain man and your head is spinin with it. You can’t respond to racist comments with more racist comments brother! I’m red and black (E3B from the mother land), white and a little yellow. Does Jah love me less for that brother? I don’t believe so! I don’t believe that is the truth. It sure not the most holy true belief of H.I.M. Most living peolpe come from the tribe of the Conquering Lion of Judah whether they know thier truth or not. We have just changed our color over time but that is not wrong or the fault of people who have changed. It is just the truth of who we have become. It is up to us to not rely on our own misunderstanding when truth is speaking to us. H.I.M addressed this very well in his address to New Orleans. He was very anti-facist and pro-peace and freedom for all people, not just black people. We should never make his legacy one of ugliness or hatred toward to anyone, it never was and never should become that. By the way, H.IM was a devout Ethiopian Copitc Church memember. It is probably the most mystical religion on earth akin to many African Sephardic ancient traditions. Don’t be ugly Jahdey, rise above that! Follow the word of H.I.M. He was never hateful nor should you ever be my brother.
Rasman
Rasman
March 19th, 2008 at 5:17 pm
Rasman
Me hear you. The truth may be an offense, but it is not a crime.
I do not racist against anyone but when a fool come to me talking about this and that…I burn him up!
We all have something to say to the other, so when a right wing fool come here with his fuckery, man, I chew him up!
I tear down all that right wing pomposity, hubris and ignorance.
I do not cringe cause I will call a spade a spade. Right wing nuts need to hear the bare truth because the truth is for everyone African or European.
Hail up
Jahdey
March 19th, 2008 at 5:48 pm
Jahdey;
I understand and fighting, the fight is not not a bad thing. I didn’t say that. You are brave to fight this fight on your own. I only said remeber the words of H.I.M, he maintained his dignity even in his ultimate downfall But H.I.M never brought his pain down to the street fighting level. His message was always positive, Afrocentric but never Black. We should never forget we are all Afrocentric but now, due to changes beyond our control, we are not all black but many colors. I really believe H.I.M is a true descendent of the Lion, I understand this but so am I. Taht doesn’t matter. We all need to get this understanding back home again soon . I have to tell you the truth, some black skined people keep making this divide wider and deeper. That is wrong! and not what the word of H.I.M says. He was always true to human truth and unity as descendent of the first generation of true Christianity. And the Jah Rastafari should be true to H.I.M. All I say was H.I.M was an authentic born Chtistian and not a hater of any race.
Rasman
March 19th, 2008 at 6:28 pm
Jahdey;
Ok man, you vented it out on me your feelings so, cool man now you can go forward. But go forward with it truth of H.I.M in mind not your own anger or human misundersatnding. That is my only recommendation brother. If you wnat to take it out on me any time man, I’m cool with that. I really have no problem. But don’t take it out on the racists who just lack the understanding of H.I.M. It is just beating a dead horse.
Rasman
May 23rd, 2008 at 8:58 pm
It is really funny to think that whites still believe they are the first at anything. The ancient blacks traveled over the Caucasus Mountains taking him 20,000 years to adapt to his environment which was clad in ice and a lack of sun, which changed the pigmentation of his skin into what we know as white people. And a Black man colonized Greece and founded the classical city of Athens, his name was Senwosret. look it up.
June 1st, 2008 at 5:24 am
I’ve read that ‘black spark, white fire’ and must say that Richard Poe doesn’t seem to have the first clue about European history.
I doubt very much that the man knows anything at all beyond his own Afrocentric agenda.
Both sides claiming to be Egyptians when neither has a claim.
Makes me laugh at you all for your infantile debates.
June 2nd, 2008 at 6:08 pm
The TRUTH.The TRUTH.It is unsettling and frightening to the heathen!! Makes him panic senseless!
Yet the truth still fascinates his devil-filled, junk food regulated brain.
A mind so twisted and depraved that he has the gall to call himself truth!. This indeed is the devil himself.
Whether he likes it or not we Africans are recapturing our culture.
Rastafari Jahdey this is good teachings. Nobody gangs lies on Jah and gets away!Pulverize this devil’s puny mind! Good work Brother!
August 31st, 2008 at 2:37 pm
my message to mohammad ,inshallah you will see johanam before you see janah, allah made us all equal ,the prophet p.b.u.h said if you have nothing good to say shut up,there were many black sahabas, also i swear by allah what you all talk about is in the past , i will show you all what a black man can achieve in the future inshallah because knowledge is power
September 21st, 2008 at 11:48 pm
when the greeks came to egypt they said the races of the world are different but equal and made a statue of a black person on one side and a white women on the other with a leaf that they wore in rome at the time.
well people know the moors were black and arab berbers are black and arab i know i live here in north africa in morocco.
blacks lived in north africa which includes morocco even Constantine de Volney (1787)when I visited the Sphinx, its appearance gave me the key to the riddle. On seeing that head, typically Negro in all its features, I remembered the remarkable passage where Herodotus says.
Colchians to be a colony of the Egyptians because, like them, they are black with woolly and nappy hair…’ “In other words, the ancient Egyptians were true Negroes of the same type as all native-born Africans.
Just think,that this race of Black men, today our slave and the object of our scorn, is the very race to which we owe our arts, sciences, and even the use of speech! Just imagine, finally, that it is in the midst of people ( Americans) who call themselves the greatest friends of liberty and humanity that one has approved the most barbarous slavery, and questioned whether Black men have the same kind of intelligence as whites 1787.
http://www.nathanielturner.com/hitlerandnegro.htm
http://members.tripod.com/jrmoore1958/chapter12.html
http://members.tripod.com/jrmoore1958/chapter13.html
there is your proof debate close
September 22nd, 2008 at 12:29 am
Vivant Denon etched the image of the Sphinx of Giza around (1798)
Though its proportions are colossal, the outline is pure and graceful; the expression of the head is mild, gracious, and tranquil; the character is African, but the mouth, and lips of which are thick, has a softness and delicacy of execution truly admirable; it seems real life and flesh.
Art must have been at a high pitch when this monument was executed; for, if the head wants what is called style, that is the say, the straight and bold lines which give expression to the figures under which the Greeks have designated their deities, yet sufficient justice has been rendered to the fine simplicity and character of nature which is displayed in this figure.
http://www.freemaninstitute.com/sphinx.htm
had to put a end to the stupid debates about africans not living in egypt or north africa dam people are so stupid. people know blacks lived in north africa like they do today in morocco and other parts just not like they use to even the (GREEKS) said so D A P >>>> dum ass people
this is the same race of people that think adam and eve were real people and they bit from a fruit that a serpent told them to do hahahahahahaha
September 22nd, 2008 at 12:40 am
In the state pictures of Kaiser Wilhelm I, between the years 1857 and 1870 appears a Negro as a German officer.
St. Maurice a black moor depicted in Germany as a Negro of the finest type. St. Maurice is the patron saint of the city of Cobourg and he appears in the city’s coat-of-arms. His picture, by Grunewald, hangs in the Alte-Pinokathek, Southern Germany’s largest museum.
On the most important bridge over the Spree at the south end of the Unter den Linden near the Berlin Cathedral in the very center of the north side of the bridge is a monument no less than eight feet high of a Negro.
In the park of the royal palace at San Souci, Potsdam, favorite residence of the last Kaiser are several statutes of Negroes, who were the favorites of the Prussian rulers Another painting of St. Maurice by Hans Baldung is, if I remember rightly, in the Dresden Museum. There is also a monument of him in armor in the Cathedral of Magdeburg.
September 22nd, 2008 at 12:41 am
Austria and there, too, St. Maurice and the Black Virgin are highly revered.
September 22nd, 2008 at 1:24 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggRj10Gt3NU
learn something you never seen before black moors in european art
done posting and putting some education on this topic…