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		<title>By: Ruel Daniels</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ruel Daniels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 00:42:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The fanaticism with which the yellow man tries to run away from any connection with the blackman in order to cleave to the white man is proof positive that black leaders need to cease getting in between conflict involving these two parties. Black people spend a lot of political capital supporting the positions of yellow and brown in their conflicts with white, with no reciprocity from these groups. And too often we discover that they can be even more vituperative in their anti black prejudice than the very whites we condemn. 

Let them fight their own battles and concentrate on ours. They are never there for us anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fanaticism with which the yellow man tries to run away from any connection with the blackman in order to cleave to the white man is proof positive that black leaders need to cease getting in between conflict involving these two parties. Black people spend a lot of political capital supporting the positions of yellow and brown in their conflicts with white, with no reciprocity from these groups. And too often we discover that they can be even more vituperative in their anti black prejudice than the very whites we condemn. </p>
<p>Let them fight their own battles and concentrate on ours. They are never there for us anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: givemeabreak</title>
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		<dc:creator>givemeabreak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 19:09:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh please gimme a break, don't equate chinese to africans please. 

anyway the genetics study already show that everyone came from african right ? 

why try to claim ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh please gimme a break, don&#8217;t equate chinese to africans please. </p>
<p>anyway the genetics study already show that everyone came from african right ? </p>
<p>why try to claim ?</p>
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		<title>By: Zee Harrison</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zee Harrison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 18:49:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The facts are that all homo sapiens came out of the region of the world now called Africa. Why are we still so focused on race? The genetic differences between races are so negligible as to me laughable. We are one. Human beings, full stop!
Our focus should be to eliminate negative belief systems which divide us like religions and belief in the supernatural. I have a blog where I talk more about this from my perspective as a black british woman. You are free to dis/agree.
In the words of Bill Cosby - 'Come on People' - wake up!
Zee</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The facts are that all homo sapiens came out of the region of the world now called Africa. Why are we still so focused on race? The genetic differences between races are so negligible as to me laughable. We are one. Human beings, full stop!<br />
Our focus should be to eliminate negative belief systems which divide us like religions and belief in the supernatural. I have a blog where I talk more about this from my perspective as a black british woman. You are free to dis/agree.<br />
In the words of Bill Cosby - &#8216;Come on People&#8217; - wake up!<br />
Zee</p>
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		<title>By: Jahdey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jahdey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 19:26:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I trust this helps Marcelo:

African Philipines http://www.africaresource.com/rasta/index.php?s=black+philipines+ 

African China http://www.africaresource.com/rasta/sesostris-the-great-the-egyptian-hercules/the-forgotten-people-by-lauren-k-clark/ 

African China http://www.africaresource.com/rasta/sesostris-the-great-the-egyptian-hercules/ancient-black-chinese-from-east-africa-by-prof-jin-li-2/

African Taiwan http://www.africaresource.com/rasta/sesostris-the-great-the-egyptian-hercules/the-black-african-foundation-of-china-honouring-the-aboriginal-black-people-of-china/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I trust this helps Marcelo:</p>
<p>African Philipines <a href="http://www.africaresource.com/rasta/index.php?s=black+philipines+" rel="nofollow">http://www.africaresource.com/rasta/index.php?s=black+philipines+</a> </p>
<p>African China <a href="http://www.africaresource.com/rasta/sesostris-the-great-the-egyptian-hercules/the-forgotten-people-by-lauren-k-clark/" rel="nofollow">http://www.africaresource.com/rasta/sesostris-the-great-the-egyptian-hercules/the-forgotten-people-by-lauren-k-clark/</a> </p>
<p>African China <a href="http://www.africaresource.com/rasta/sesostris-the-great-the-egyptian-hercules/ancient-black-chinese-from-east-africa-by-prof-jin-li-2/" rel="nofollow">http://www.africaresource.com/rasta/sesostris-the-great-the-egyptian-hercules/ancient-black-chinese-from-east-africa-by-prof-jin-li-2/</a></p>
<p>African Taiwan <a href="http://www.africaresource.com/rasta/sesostris-the-great-the-egyptian-hercules/the-black-african-foundation-of-china-honouring-the-aboriginal-black-people-of-china/" rel="nofollow">http://www.africaresource.com/rasta/sesostris-the-great-the-egyptian-hercules/the-black-african-foundation-of-china-honouring-the-aboriginal-black-people-of-china/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jahdey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jahdey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 19:19:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More lectures for the young developing mind of Marcelo and similarly challenged wannabe scholars:

(1) Fijians believe that they originated from the shores of Lake Tanganyika ("fish bag" in Fijian) situated on the western border of Tanganyika (East Africa). Fable records that Lutunasobasoba, a powerful chief and navigator, guided his people in their huge ocean going canoes to their final landing place at Vuda (our source) on Viti Levu's western coast near Ba. Interestingly, one of the largest coastal river systems in Tanganyika (now Tanzania) is the Rufiji - made famous by the German Cruiser, the SMS Konigsberg, andÃ‚ von Lettow Vorbeck, the German General who kept the British Allies on the run throughout World War One.


(2)Finally, our limited genetic data from Tanzanians belonging to haplogroups M1, N1, and J suggest 2 alternatives that are not mutually exclusive. Populations in Tanzania may have been important in the migration of modern humans from Africa to other regions, as noted in previous studies of other populations in eastern Africa (Quintana-Murci et al. 1999). For example, mtDNAs of Tanzanians belonging to haplogroup M1 cluster with peoples from Oceania, whereas Tanzanian mtDNAs belonging to haplogroup N1 and J cluster with peoples of Middle Eastern and Eurasian origin. However, the presence of haplogroups N1 and J in Tanzania suggest "back" migration from the Middle East or Eurasia into eastern Africa, which has been inferred from previous studies of other populations in eastern Africa (Kivisild et al. 2004). These results are intriguing and suggest that the role of Tanzanians in the migration of modern humans within and out of Africa should be analyzed in greater detail after more extensive data collection, particularly from analysis of Y-, X-, and autosomal chromosome markers. Our analyses of African mtDNAs suggest populations in eastern Africa have played an important and persistent role in the origin and diversification of modern humans.

Gonder et al., 2006</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More lectures for the young developing mind of Marcelo and similarly challenged wannabe scholars:</p>
<p>(1) Fijians believe that they originated from the shores of Lake Tanganyika (&#8221;fish bag&#8221; in Fijian) situated on the western border of Tanganyika (East Africa). Fable records that Lutunasobasoba, a powerful chief and navigator, guided his people in their huge ocean going canoes to their final landing place at Vuda (our source) on Viti Levu&#8217;s western coast near Ba. Interestingly, one of the largest coastal river systems in Tanganyika (now Tanzania) is the Rufiji - made famous by the German Cruiser, the SMS Konigsberg, andÃ‚ von Lettow Vorbeck, the German General who kept the British Allies on the run throughout World War One.</p>
<p>(2)Finally, our limited genetic data from Tanzanians belonging to haplogroups M1, N1, and J suggest 2 alternatives that are not mutually exclusive. Populations in Tanzania may have been important in the migration of modern humans from Africa to other regions, as noted in previous studies of other populations in eastern Africa (Quintana-Murci et al. 1999). For example, mtDNAs of Tanzanians belonging to haplogroup M1 cluster with peoples from Oceania, whereas Tanzanian mtDNAs belonging to haplogroup N1 and J cluster with peoples of Middle Eastern and Eurasian origin. However, the presence of haplogroups N1 and J in Tanzania suggest &#8220;back&#8221; migration from the Middle East or Eurasia into eastern Africa, which has been inferred from previous studies of other populations in eastern Africa (Kivisild et al. 2004). These results are intriguing and suggest that the role of Tanzanians in the migration of modern humans within and out of Africa should be analyzed in greater detail after more extensive data collection, particularly from analysis of Y-, X-, and autosomal chromosome markers. Our analyses of African mtDNAs suggest populations in eastern Africa have played an important and persistent role in the origin and diversification of modern humans.</p>
<p>Gonder et al., 2006</p>
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		<title>By: Jahdey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jahdey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 19:07:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marcelo

You find the article bizzare because you have limited knowledge of the Austronesian-speaking ancestors of most of todayâ€™s Filipinos, Indonesians, Malaysians, Hawaiians, Samoans, Fijians.  You need to read more, research more, develope your mind, ask more questions and conduct independent analysis to arrive at objective truth.

But, by your insolent hog-wash about "Black" Africans I believe you are a Pinkoid (aka Pale-Pink coloured person).  Why do I say so?  Because only some Right Wing Pinkoid Nut or a zombie they produced would have the gall to contest the history of African Fijians.

Now Learn:

by Peta Young

Fiji, an island archipelago in the Pacific Ocean in the southern tropics is a holiday paradise It has the honor of being the first place on Earth to welcome the new day. It lies longitudinally on the 180th meridian, the International Date Line, which makes a special bend eastwards around the island group so that Fijians will all keep the same time. Fiji is twelve hours ahead of Greenwich Mean Time.

3,500 years ago, natives from Tanganyika in East Africa arrived from the south-west, and from the north-east, Polynesians and Melanesians paddled their canoes to Fiji to settle in this new land. The natives gradually scattered across the country forming village groups throughout the islands. Until 150 years ago, warring and cannibalism among these early settlers was quite common. But when the first missionaries arrived in 1840 and introduced Christianity, the Fijians were transformed into the gentle, peace-loving devout Christians that we know today.

Of the 330 Fijian islands, only 106 are inhabited. Most of the population of just under one million live on the largest island, Vita Levu. Fiji islanders and Fiji-Indians are the main inhabitants while other islanders, Chinese and Europeans are in the minority. Fiji is a developing country with abundant forest, mineral and fish resources and a thriving sugar industry. Tourism is growing with approximately 350,000 visitors annually. Many come especially to dive among the beautiful coral reefs that surround each island.

The recent military coup has adversely affected Fiji's business economy and the European Union has suspended all aid until the next elections. This has resulted in a drastic down-turn in the building industry because of a lack of available funds. The economy of Fiji is severely depressed with 25% of the people living below the poverty line.

The Fiji-Indians are the businessmen and the towns and city streets are lined with all manner of shops and businesses almost all owned by the Indians. Each town has at least one market place where tourists can have fun bartering for items on sale. The wide variety of stalls offer local fruit and vegetables, wonderful exotic spices like turmeric, ginger, cardamom and chillies, sulis, sarongs, colorful shirts, hand made arts and crafts, beads, pearls, shells, plus many more delights it is almost impossible to visit the market place and come away empty handed.

While the Fiji-Indians are relatively prosperous, the Fijian natives are a family-oriented community who live mainly in villages. They live a hunter/gatherer lifestyle, with the villagers helping each other. They grow their own fruit and vegetables and keep chickens, goats and cows for eggs, milk and meat. They are practically self-sufficient for their day-to-day sustenance This style of community living is all-encompassing, with each family member from the oldest to the youngest being treated as a person of worth. Many Fijians are employed in the luxury tourist resorts, sugar mills, and other laboring jobs where they work for just $1 - $2 an hour.

A visit to Fiji is a step back in time there are no high-rise buildings, crowds, commercialism, fast cars (there is an 80kph speed limit), in fact, it's as if you have entered a time warp from the 1970s. The pace is slower Fiji time'. That is how things are done here no hurry, so just settle back and enjoy your Fijian holiday. Bula!

.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marcelo</p>
<p>You find the article bizzare because you have limited knowledge of the Austronesian-speaking ancestors of most of todayâ€™s Filipinos, Indonesians, Malaysians, Hawaiians, Samoans, Fijians.  You need to read more, research more, develope your mind, ask more questions and conduct independent analysis to arrive at objective truth.</p>
<p>But, by your insolent hog-wash about &#8220;Black&#8221; Africans I believe you are a Pinkoid (aka Pale-Pink coloured person).  Why do I say so?  Because only some Right Wing Pinkoid Nut or a zombie they produced would have the gall to contest the history of African Fijians.</p>
<p>Now Learn:</p>
<p>by Peta Young</p>
<p>Fiji, an island archipelago in the Pacific Ocean in the southern tropics is a holiday paradise It has the honor of being the first place on Earth to welcome the new day. It lies longitudinally on the 180th meridian, the International Date Line, which makes a special bend eastwards around the island group so that Fijians will all keep the same time. Fiji is twelve hours ahead of Greenwich Mean Time.</p>
<p>3,500 years ago, natives from Tanganyika in East Africa arrived from the south-west, and from the north-east, Polynesians and Melanesians paddled their canoes to Fiji to settle in this new land. The natives gradually scattered across the country forming village groups throughout the islands. Until 150 years ago, warring and cannibalism among these early settlers was quite common. But when the first missionaries arrived in 1840 and introduced Christianity, the Fijians were transformed into the gentle, peace-loving devout Christians that we know today.</p>
<p>Of the 330 Fijian islands, only 106 are inhabited. Most of the population of just under one million live on the largest island, Vita Levu. Fiji islanders and Fiji-Indians are the main inhabitants while other islanders, Chinese and Europeans are in the minority. Fiji is a developing country with abundant forest, mineral and fish resources and a thriving sugar industry. Tourism is growing with approximately 350,000 visitors annually. Many come especially to dive among the beautiful coral reefs that surround each island.</p>
<p>The recent military coup has adversely affected Fiji&#8217;s business economy and the European Union has suspended all aid until the next elections. This has resulted in a drastic down-turn in the building industry because of a lack of available funds. The economy of Fiji is severely depressed with 25% of the people living below the poverty line.</p>
<p>The Fiji-Indians are the businessmen and the towns and city streets are lined with all manner of shops and businesses almost all owned by the Indians. Each town has at least one market place where tourists can have fun bartering for items on sale. The wide variety of stalls offer local fruit and vegetables, wonderful exotic spices like turmeric, ginger, cardamom and chillies, sulis, sarongs, colorful shirts, hand made arts and crafts, beads, pearls, shells, plus many more delights it is almost impossible to visit the market place and come away empty handed.</p>
<p>While the Fiji-Indians are relatively prosperous, the Fijian natives are a family-oriented community who live mainly in villages. They live a hunter/gatherer lifestyle, with the villagers helping each other. They grow their own fruit and vegetables and keep chickens, goats and cows for eggs, milk and meat. They are practically self-sufficient for their day-to-day sustenance This style of community living is all-encompassing, with each family member from the oldest to the youngest being treated as a person of worth. Many Fijians are employed in the luxury tourist resorts, sugar mills, and other laboring jobs where they work for just $1 - $2 an hour.</p>
<p>A visit to Fiji is a step back in time there are no high-rise buildings, crowds, commercialism, fast cars (there is an 80kph speed limit), in fact, it&#8217;s as if you have entered a time warp from the 1970s. The pace is slower Fiji time&#8217;. That is how things are done here no hurry, so just settle back and enjoy your Fijian holiday. Bula!</p>
<p>.</p>
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<a href="http://www.helium.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.helium.com/</a> tm/856986/ island-archipelago- pacific-ocean - 33k - Cached - Similar pages<br />
Chronological History of Tanganyika (Tanzania)<br />
Interestingly, the flowering tree seen in the images below is common to both Tanganyika and Fiji. In Fiji it is called the Fijian Tulip and is found all &#8230;<br />
<a href="http://www.fijibure" rel="nofollow">http://www.fijibure</a>. com/tang. htm - 15k - Cached - Similar pages<br />
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<a href="http://www.travelintellige" rel="nofollow">http://www.travelintellige</a> nce.com/. ../Fiji/Viti- Levu/ Vatuka/Vatukacevace va-Encounters- with-the- Gods.html - 31k - Cached - Similar pages</p>
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PART ONE : HEALING IN FIJIAN CULTURE 8 &#8230;.. religious customs, oral history and iconography. ..our present homes in Fiji from Tanganyika, in East&#8230;exactly &#8230;<br />
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		<title>By: Marcelo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marcelo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 09:39:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sirs/Madams:

I find the view of Dr. Clyde Winters to be bizarre in the extreme as regards the origins of the Austronesians.  The Austronesian-speaking ancestors of most of today's Filipinos, Indonesians, Malaysians, Hawaiians, Samoans, Fijians, etc. were neither Han Chinese nor Black African.  They sprang from a neolithic culture originally from South China-Taiwan.  South China, incidentally, is the ancient cradle of numerous other nations who have millions of descendants today (Thai, Khmer and Vietnamese among them).  Again, their forbears were neither Han Chinese nor Black Afican. 

Of course,  the ancesors of all modern human populations came out of Africa in the distant past.  But whoever those venerable ancestors may have been, none of the peoples they gave rise to over tens of thousands of years in East Asia can even remotely be considered Black African.

Finally, there are people of dark and black skin in Southeast Asia, Australasia and the Pacific, mainly the Andamese in the Indian Ocean, the Negrito/Aeta in the Philippines and Malaysia, the Papuan peoples in Papua New Guinea and Melanesia, and the Australoids in Australia.  These are truly ancient peoples, who arrived in their homelands millennia before the Austronesians came on the scene.  However, they are genetically and linguistacally very distant from any existing Black African population. Through millennia of intermarraige, moreover, they have become closer to their Austronesian neighbors.

Please read Peter Bellwood, Stephen Oppenheimer, and many others on the Austronesians.

Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sirs/Madams:</p>
<p>I find the view of Dr. Clyde Winters to be bizarre in the extreme as regards the origins of the Austronesians.  The Austronesian-speaking ancestors of most of today&#8217;s Filipinos, Indonesians, Malaysians, Hawaiians, Samoans, Fijians, etc. were neither Han Chinese nor Black African.  They sprang from a neolithic culture originally from South China-Taiwan.  South China, incidentally, is the ancient cradle of numerous other nations who have millions of descendants today (Thai, Khmer and Vietnamese among them).  Again, their forbears were neither Han Chinese nor Black Afican. </p>
<p>Of course,  the ancesors of all modern human populations came out of Africa in the distant past.  But whoever those venerable ancestors may have been, none of the peoples they gave rise to over tens of thousands of years in East Asia can even remotely be considered Black African.</p>
<p>Finally, there are people of dark and black skin in Southeast Asia, Australasia and the Pacific, mainly the Andamese in the Indian Ocean, the Negrito/Aeta in the Philippines and Malaysia, the Papuan peoples in Papua New Guinea and Melanesia, and the Australoids in Australia.  These are truly ancient peoples, who arrived in their homelands millennia before the Austronesians came on the scene.  However, they are genetically and linguistacally very distant from any existing Black African population. Through millennia of intermarraige, moreover, they have become closer to their Austronesian neighbors.</p>
<p>Please read Peter Bellwood, Stephen Oppenheimer, and many others on the Austronesians.</p>
<p>Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: PandaOfEvil</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 16:43:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peking Man is a homo-erectus, so whether one thinks he has "negroid" or "mongoloid" features is irrelevant. The very scientist whose name you invoke, Jin Li, has ruled out that modern Chinese are descended from Peking Man. Jin Li's research simply confirms the out of Africa theory, it has nothing to do with black Africans actually founding the Xia or Shang dynasties. Yes, we all came from Africa, so I suppose you could argue that Africans founded every civilization, since all homo sapiens are ultimately from Africa, but that is quite different from your claim that black Africans founded our early dynasties.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peking Man is a homo-erectus, so whether one thinks he has &#8220;negroid&#8221; or &#8220;mongoloid&#8221; features is irrelevant. The very scientist whose name you invoke, Jin Li, has ruled out that modern Chinese are descended from Peking Man. Jin Li&#8217;s research simply confirms the out of Africa theory, it has nothing to do with black Africans actually founding the Xia or Shang dynasties. Yes, we all came from Africa, so I suppose you could argue that Africans founded every civilization, since all homo sapiens are ultimately from Africa, but that is quite different from your claim that black Africans founded our early dynasties.</p>
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		<title>By: big mama</title>
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		<dc:creator>big mama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 00:28:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>repled to Darwin charles



Listen first of all ancient africa is the birth place of mankind, they dont need to modernize africa, and it's people, because they need to preserve the birthplace of civilization. The reason why white people know so much about science and tecnology is because africa has done a sgreat job in preserving the history of the birthplace of mankind. Africa is the one that started tecnology it's only fare that the white man advances the tecnology. The white man has stolen everything that there is to steal with their conquering of people(slavery) to the conquering of territories. And with them taking credit for tecnology from the worlds first people, I'll say this, all good things old and new can be accreditted back to it's originator(africans).</description>
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<p>Listen first of all ancient africa is the birth place of mankind, they dont need to modernize africa, and it&#8217;s people, because they need to preserve the birthplace of civilization. The reason why white people know so much about science and tecnology is because africa has done a sgreat job in preserving the history of the birthplace of mankind. Africa is the one that started tecnology it&#8217;s only fare that the white man advances the tecnology. The white man has stolen everything that there is to steal with their conquering of people(slavery) to the conquering of territories. And with them taking credit for tecnology from the worlds first people, I&#8217;ll say this, all good things old and new can be accreditted back to it&#8217;s originator(africans).</p>
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		<title>By: ellis</title>
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		<dc:creator>ellis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 23:51:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>where did native americans come from?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>where did native americans come from?</p>
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