Comments on: Original West Africans Of Ancient Greece!!! The Black (First) Europeans III

By: Dave

Dave — Wed, 07 May 2008 13:26:43 +0000

Ok for one where did you get the false assumption that ancient Greek skeleton DNAs,both mt and Y and then comparison to DNA of modern Greeks were not done? Do you know how many such studies have been conducted which proves ancient Greeks and modern Greeks not only are the same BUT part of the Caucasian cluster? Obviously not when you make such false statements. Modern studies have constructed Greek genetic trees revealing a strong degree of homogeneity between Greeks from different geographical locations. Median networks revealed that most of the Greek haplotypes are clustered to the five known haplogroups and that a number of haplotypes are shared among Greeks and other European and Eurasian populations. Within the loci studied, the genetic composition of the Greeks indicates a significantly low level of heterogeneity compared with other European populations. Modern scholars and scientists have supported the notion that there is a racial connection to the ancient Greeks. Luigi Luca Cavalli-Sforza, Paolo Menozzi, and Alberto Piazza, have found evidence of a genetic connection between the ancient and modern Greeks.[79]

By: K

Sun, 04 May 2008 14:13:00 +0000

Guys all this conversation is pointless.Did you read what Cavalli wrote?We should take into account anthropology and historical data to interpret any findings in genetics.Yes,the DNA findings confirm what is already known.There is the same DNA all over mediteranean coast,in Greece,Sicily,south Italy,west Turkey, etc because there lived Greeks.They had colonies all along the coast.All the genetic studies will show the same.
The DNA of Greeks inside the cuntry,far from coast is different because there lived mostly Slavs,Albaninas etc.There is high R1a haplotype frequency in Greece,about 12% due to slavic population.Everything is clear.

What we need?We need studies on ancient Greek skeleton DNAs,both mt and Y and then comparison to DNA of modern Greeks.Since we lack these studies,everything else is just an assumption.(maybe strong indication,however an assumption).
For example similar studies showed genetic similarity between ancient Phoinices and today’s Lebanese who live in the same region.Let’s see what the same kind of study will show for Greece.

Of course all these problems are highly prejudiced and have consequences regarding racial issues,so an independant,objective study is what needed and very difficult to achieve,sth not sponsored by any state or racial organization.
Let’s see if people are brave enough to let such a study develop in Greece and the whole balkan region.Corpses will tell the truth.

By: Jahdey

Jahdey — Sat, 12 Apr 2008 03:43:26 +0000

Fine. Keep your eyes open for the Moorish Science Temple guys. You may be interested to hear what they have to say. They are numerous in the States. I am in Canada currently, but I also live in the States.

All said Dave, you do not feel like a bad guy. You sound somewhat young though.

Keep on searching and questioning. If you are sincere you will see the answer…

Jahdey

By: Dave

Dave — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 20:58:42 +0000

“I lived half of the year in Europe”

Sorry that should read: I LIVE half of the year over in Europe.

By: Dave

Dave — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 20:57:48 +0000

Currently in the States but I lived half of the year in Europe.

By: Jahdey

Jahdey — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 20:52:20 +0000

Dave

Where are you writing from? Seriously, tell me the country you are in? I am in North America, are you there too or in Europe?

Jahdey

By: Dave

Dave — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 18:22:05 +0000

Jahdey who can’t comprehend the fact that Sickle Cell is not some ‘genetic race’ marker.

I am proud of my “PINK” skin(the politically correct term used by some for obvious reasons) that is found in ALL European people (Greeks, English, Italians, French, Germans, etc.) alike. Europeans have the same phenotypes, such as facial features & light/pale coloring, including SOUTHERN Europeans, not just Northern Europeans, as you so incorrectly claimed. Try to pick out the Greeks from the Americans, Germans, Czech, and Austrians from the clip below if you can…. ;p
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QavZsO7A54k

More “PINK” Greeks who are similar genetically, culturally etc. to all European people, not “brown Africans”. ;p
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhKnnf60kn4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dFLkxFBNZ4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJWnL8Xp1kI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65AiRM2mjVM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDDP5wZ5G-E

For a person to teach something s/he much be knowledgeable in the facts and its been established you are not.

By: Jahdey

Jahdey — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 17:35:55 +0000

Dave you are pink because there is no colour like “light” so to speak.

Don’t you dare call your arse white again here cause now you have been taught a lesson in skin colour pigmentation.

Northern Europeans are all pinkish in colour. I do not want to dishonour you by suggesting that you are yellow.

So be PROUD of your COLOUR Mister Dave aka “Mr. Sickle Cell is caused by Malaria Parasite”. PINK!

By: Dave

Dave — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 17:01:26 +0000

The day you embarrass anyone, Jahdey, is the day cows fly over the moon.

Since you can’t comprehend simple answers, again I am the same color and phenotypes as all other Europeans (Greeks, English, Italians, French, Germans, etc.) are pale/light skin tone = ‘white’.

African phenotypes are “dark brown” = ‘black’. ;p

By: Jahdey

Jahdey — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 16:41:47 +0000

Hehehehe

I am embarrassed for you!

You who would vituperate about the “black” skin of brown-skinned Africans are now tongue tied to physically described your self.

I thought you “was” white. LOL

Go ahead, be bold and tell me your real colour pigmentation.

David…are you a white or a pink man?

Jahdey