Comments on: Medieval Europe Before The Advent of The Black Moors of Africa http://www.africaresource.com/rasta/sesostris-the-great-the-egyptian-hercules/medieval-europe-before-the-advent-of-the-black-moors-of-spain/ Rastafarian Views on Life, Politics and Social Issues Sat, 30 Aug 2008 11:30:27 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: whatever http://www.africaresource.com/rasta/sesostris-the-great-the-egyptian-hercules/medieval-europe-before-the-advent-of-the-black-moors-of-spain/#comment-23542 whatever Thu, 12 Jun 2008 09:06:42 +0000 http://www.africaresource.com/rasta/sesostris-the-great-the-egyptian-hercules/medieval-europe-before-the-advent-of-the-black-moors-of-spain/#comment-23542 Allso by believing that people stole the Black Moorish and ancient Egyptian achievements from Blacks, you asume that the Semitic Muslims are less hated than Blacks. I mean you guys believe that all these white European scholars hate Blacks so much that they rather take Black history and give them to the Arabs/Berbers. This is of course riduculous since Arabs are the single most hated ethnic group in the entire world. In a time when Arabs (Muslim Semites) are the subject of the entire worlds hatred, nothing would be spared discredit them or the achievements of their ancestors. Just think about it. Allso by believing that people stole the Black Moorish and ancient Egyptian achievements from Blacks, you asume that the Semitic Muslims are less hated than Blacks. I mean you guys believe that all these white European scholars hate Blacks so much that they rather take Black history and give them to the Arabs/Berbers. This is of course riduculous since Arabs are the single most hated ethnic group in the entire world. In a time when Arabs (Muslim Semites) are the subject of the entire worlds hatred, nothing would be spared discredit them or the achievements of their ancestors. Just think about it.

]]> By: whatever http://www.africaresource.com/rasta/sesostris-the-great-the-egyptian-hercules/medieval-europe-before-the-advent-of-the-black-moors-of-spain/#comment-23520 whatever Tue, 10 Jun 2008 12:48:00 +0000 http://www.africaresource.com/rasta/sesostris-the-great-the-egyptian-hercules/medieval-europe-before-the-advent-of-the-black-moors-of-spain/#comment-23520 loanlady, youre absolutely right, but the vast majority of Berbers (especially those living along the coasts of Africa) are not Black. Allso why have the ancient Egyptians painted the ancient Libyans (ancestors of modern Berbers) as white. They painted themselves as brown and the Nubians as Black. If, according to Jahdey, the entire worlds civilization stems from Black Africa, why is it then that Africa below the Ethiopia and the Sahara was not known to mankind. All the ancient world maps draw Africa as going no further then the southern tip of the Sahara. It just doesnt make any sense. Another point is the lack of any evidence that point to some great ancient civilization in sub-Saharan Africa. If Black Africans were so ingenius to develop such brilliant societies in North Africa/Middle East/Europe, then why is Southern Africa so devoid of any great accomplishments in ancient times. Again, it doesnt make any sense. At some time in history mankind went from roaming across plains to living a sedetary life style. They built houses and farms. This change took place in modern-day Iraq. Trade went up and people started living in close together. Its called the birth of civilization. This didnt happen in Africa, it happened in West Asia (modern Iraq). From there 'civilization' was spread throughout the Middle East region and into Egypt, Anatolia and Greece. Wth Southern Africa being seperated from the 'civilized world' by the gigantic, scorching Sahara, this first wave of civilization simply didnt go further then Egypt. Thats how I see it. You shouldnt have to claim acievements that simply werent Black. There are numerous people/achievement blacks can and should be proud of. Years from now people around the world will speak about the most powerfull country of all time (US), and their culture that was dominated by Black people. School books will mention brilliant artists like Louis Armstrong, Charlie Parker, Miles Davis, John Coltrane and Cliff Richard. How blacks were the first one to perform the classic artforms of Jazz, Blues, Soul, Reggea, Rock and Rap. A hundred years from now people will speak of Miles Davis like they speak of Beethoven. You can look at great Black leaders like Malcolm X, Luther King jr. and Mandela and be proud as hell. I know one thing, the Dutch dont have a man like Malcolm X to call their own. loanlady, youre absolutely right, but the vast majority of Berbers (especially those living along the coasts of Africa) are not Black. Allso why have the ancient Egyptians painted the ancient Libyans (ancestors of modern Berbers) as white. They painted themselves as brown and the Nubians as Black.

If, according to Jahdey, the entire worlds civilization stems from Black Africa, why is it then that Africa below the Ethiopia and the Sahara was not known to mankind. All the ancient world maps draw Africa as going no further then the southern tip of the Sahara. It just doesnt make any sense.

Another point is the lack of any evidence that point to some great ancient civilization in sub-Saharan Africa. If Black Africans were so ingenius to develop such brilliant societies in North Africa/Middle East/Europe, then why is Southern Africa so devoid of any great accomplishments in ancient times. Again, it doesnt make any sense.

At some time in history mankind went from roaming across plains to living a sedetary life style. They built houses and farms. This change took place in modern-day Iraq. Trade went up and people started living in close together. Its called the birth of civilization. This didnt happen in Africa, it happened in West Asia (modern Iraq). From there ‘civilization’ was spread throughout the Middle East region and into Egypt, Anatolia and Greece. Wth Southern Africa being seperated from the ‘civilized world’ by the gigantic, scorching Sahara, this first wave of civilization simply didnt go further then Egypt. Thats how I see it.

You shouldnt have to claim acievements that simply werent Black. There are numerous people/achievement blacks can and should be proud of. Years from now people around the world will speak about the most powerfull country of all time (US), and their culture that was dominated by Black people. School books will mention brilliant artists like Louis Armstrong, Charlie Parker, Miles Davis, John Coltrane and Cliff Richard. How blacks were the first one to perform the classic artforms of Jazz, Blues, Soul, Reggea, Rock and Rap. A hundred years from now people will speak of Miles Davis like they speak of Beethoven. You can look at great Black leaders like Malcolm X, Luther King jr. and Mandela and be proud as hell. I know one thing, the Dutch dont have a man like Malcolm X to call their own.

]]> By: loanlady http://www.africaresource.com/rasta/sesostris-the-great-the-egyptian-hercules/medieval-europe-before-the-advent-of-the-black-moors-of-spain/#comment-23512 loanlady Mon, 09 Jun 2008 23:35:33 +0000 http://www.africaresource.com/rasta/sesostris-the-great-the-egyptian-hercules/medieval-europe-before-the-advent-of-the-black-moors-of-spain/#comment-23512 Toscana Mori: you absolutely hit the nail on the head! so many racist white people here in america and the absolute reason why they themselves suffer along with even the Black man! Toscana Mori: you absolutely hit the nail on the head! so many racist white people here in america and the absolute reason why they themselves suffer along with even the Black man!

]]> By: loanlady http://www.africaresource.com/rasta/sesostris-the-great-the-egyptian-hercules/medieval-europe-before-the-advent-of-the-black-moors-of-spain/#comment-23511 loanlady Mon, 09 Jun 2008 23:32:36 +0000 http://www.africaresource.com/rasta/sesostris-the-great-the-egyptian-hercules/medieval-europe-before-the-advent-of-the-black-moors-of-spain/#comment-23511 whatever: dont forget about the non-white berbers in morocco! whatever: dont forget about the non-white berbers in morocco!

]]> By: whatever http://www.africaresource.com/rasta/sesostris-the-great-the-egyptian-hercules/medieval-europe-before-the-advent-of-the-black-moors-of-spain/#comment-23509 whatever Mon, 09 Jun 2008 21:04:25 +0000 http://www.africaresource.com/rasta/sesostris-the-great-the-egyptian-hercules/medieval-europe-before-the-advent-of-the-black-moors-of-spain/#comment-23509 Could you explain why modern Berbers along the North African coasts are the 'whitest' of all African people. If according to you the Libyans/Numidians/Berbers were originally Blacks and they were 'whitewashed' by invading Arabs, why is it then that modern Berbers have 'whiter genes' then Arab North Africans? Shouldnt the source of all this 'whitewashing' be whiter then other North African groups? Im seriously interested in your explenation for that. Shakespeare was born in 1564, nearly a century after the fall of Grenada, thousands of miles from Spain. According to what we know of his life, he has never been anywhere near that country. He doesnt seem to be the most reliable source on Muslim Spain. The great Arab theologian Ibn Khaldun in 1377 wrote a famous book called "Book of Evidence, Record of Beginnings and Events from the Days of the Arabs, Persians and Berbers and their Powerful Contemporaries". In this book he in great length describes the ruling powers of Moorish dynasties and their ancestries. In it he allso gives a clear picture of the Muslim societies in the Magreb and Spain. The book in no way supports your theory of the Black Moors. Could you explain why modern Berbers along the North African coasts are the ‘whitest’ of all African people. If according to you the Libyans/Numidians/Berbers were originally Blacks and they were ‘whitewashed’ by invading Arabs, why is it then that modern Berbers have ‘whiter genes’ then Arab North Africans? Shouldnt the source of all this ‘whitewashing’ be whiter then other North African groups?
Im seriously interested in your explenation for that.

Shakespeare was born in 1564, nearly a century after the fall of Grenada, thousands of miles from Spain. According to what we know of his life, he has never been anywhere near that country. He doesnt seem to be the most reliable source on Muslim Spain.

The great Arab theologian Ibn Khaldun in 1377 wrote a famous book called “Book of Evidence, Record of Beginnings and Events from the Days of the Arabs, Persians and Berbers and their Powerful Contemporaries”.

In this book he in great length describes the ruling powers of Moorish dynasties and their ancestries. In it he allso gives a clear picture of the Muslim societies in the Magreb and Spain. The book in no way supports your theory of the Black Moors.

]]> By: Jahdey http://www.africaresource.com/rasta/sesostris-the-great-the-egyptian-hercules/medieval-europe-before-the-advent-of-the-black-moors-of-spain/#comment-23507 Jahdey Mon, 09 Jun 2008 17:42:29 +0000 http://www.africaresource.com/rasta/sesostris-the-great-the-egyptian-hercules/medieval-europe-before-the-advent-of-the-black-moors-of-spain/#comment-23507 Whatever inquires demands "...What happened to the ‘Black Moors’? Where they massacred, where they driven out of their lands? .." Jahdey Speaks "Your piratical slave=mongering ancestors deported them to Cape Verde, Jamaica, Haiti, Carolina, Florida and Brazil. Inquisition was the process through which the Black Moors were flushed out of Europe. Go ask the ghost of Shakespare why he believed that Moors were the so-called Blacks of today." Whatever inquires demands

“…What happened to the ‘Black Moors’? Where they massacred, where they driven out of their lands? ..”

Jahdey Speaks

“Your piratical slave=mongering ancestors deported them to Cape Verde, Jamaica, Haiti, Carolina, Florida and Brazil. Inquisition was the process through which the Black Moors were flushed out of Europe.

Go ask the ghost of Shakespare why he believed that Moors were the so-called Blacks of today.”

]]> By: whatever http://www.africaresource.com/rasta/sesostris-the-great-the-egyptian-hercules/medieval-europe-before-the-advent-of-the-black-moors-of-spain/#comment-23497 whatever Sun, 08 Jun 2008 01:03:42 +0000 http://www.africaresource.com/rasta/sesostris-the-great-the-egyptian-hercules/medieval-europe-before-the-advent-of-the-black-moors-of-spain/#comment-23497 Jahdey, dude youre mest up. You got to let these schizofrenic, delusional thoughts of afrocentrism go. You cant just go around stealing other peoples history. All respected historians agree that Berbers and Arabs conquered Iberia, thats good enough for. Whats allso good enough for me is the mostly non-black faces in Magreb states. What happened to the 'Black Moors'? Where they massacred, where they driven out of their lands? According to historical sources, that never has happened. But he you dont care about historical accuracy, or logic for that matter. Why do modern Berbers have the highest amounts of European Genes of all other African people? Check the link below for some pictures of Algerian Berbers. They in no way seem to have any Black features. http://imazighen.vze.com/kabyles/algeria.htm Jahdey, dude youre mest up. You got to let these schizofrenic, delusional thoughts of afrocentrism go. You cant just go around stealing other peoples history. All respected historians agree that Berbers and Arabs conquered Iberia, thats good enough for. Whats allso good enough for me is the mostly non-black faces in Magreb states. What happened to the ‘Black Moors’? Where they massacred, where they driven out of their lands? According to historical sources, that never has happened. But he you dont care about historical accuracy, or logic for that matter.

Why do modern Berbers have the highest amounts of European Genes of all other African people? Check the link below for some pictures of Algerian Berbers. They in no way seem to have any Black features.

http://imazighen.vze.com/kabyles/algeria.htm

]]> By: Toscana Mori http://www.africaresource.com/rasta/sesostris-the-great-the-egyptian-hercules/medieval-europe-before-the-advent-of-the-black-moors-of-spain/#comment-23409 Toscana Mori Tue, 03 Jun 2008 08:12:29 +0000 http://www.africaresource.com/rasta/sesostris-the-great-the-egyptian-hercules/medieval-europe-before-the-advent-of-the-black-moors-of-spain/#comment-23409 If you Americans really would like to know what moors look like, go to Italy and look at the statues and flags which were created long before these racist arguments existed. They are definitely not white. They very black in color with phenotype found in Africa ranging from very African to Arab looking. Stop trying to justify history with your racist and stupid arguments that only Americans care about. This one of the reasons America is suffering and so hated in the present time. You are hellbent on kidnapping the cultures of other people that have nothing to do with your own. The sardegnian flag has the heads of four black skinned moors with tightly coiled hair and their holy Madonna is also black skinned. What is the big deal if they were black? Does it make you Americans feel inferior? You have your own history to relish in. As I have said before, they were a mixture of black and Arab invaders from Africa, Mauretania to be exact. In fact, why should there be a discussion, since you currently call blacks niggers and Arabs sand niggers, why should you feel obligated to make them into caucasian when it is convenient. Americans are full of shit. toscana mori Quercianella, Italia 57015 If you Americans really would like to know what moors look like, go to Italy and look at the statues and flags which were created long before these racist arguments existed. They are definitely not white. They very black in color with phenotype found in Africa ranging from very African to Arab looking. Stop trying to justify history with your racist and stupid arguments that only Americans care about. This one of the reasons America is suffering and so hated in the present time. You are hellbent on kidnapping the cultures of other people that have nothing to do with your own. The sardegnian flag has the heads of four black skinned moors with tightly coiled hair and their holy Madonna is also black skinned. What is the big deal if they were black? Does it make you Americans feel inferior? You have your own history to relish in.
As I have said before, they were a mixture of black and Arab invaders from Africa, Mauretania to be exact. In fact, why should there be a discussion, since you currently call blacks niggers and Arabs sand niggers, why should you feel obligated to make them into caucasian when it is convenient. Americans are full of shit.

toscana mori
Quercianella, Italia 57015

]]> By: Jahdey http://www.africaresource.com/rasta/sesostris-the-great-the-egyptian-hercules/medieval-europe-before-the-advent-of-the-black-moors-of-spain/#comment-23332 Jahdey Tue, 27 May 2008 14:56:43 +0000 http://www.africaresource.com/rasta/sesostris-the-great-the-egyptian-hercules/medieval-europe-before-the-advent-of-the-black-moors-of-spain/#comment-23332 Brother Terrell Shukran for sharing this knowledge. Jahdey Brother Terrell

Shukran for sharing this knowledge.

Jahdey

]]> By: terrell ali bey http://www.africaresource.com/rasta/sesostris-the-great-the-egyptian-hercules/medieval-europe-before-the-advent-of-the-black-moors-of-spain/#comment-23324 terrell ali bey Tue, 27 May 2008 03:36:36 +0000 http://www.africaresource.com/rasta/sesostris-the-great-the-egyptian-hercules/medieval-europe-before-the-advent-of-the-black-moors-of-spain/#comment-23324 shave a monkey bald an its pale red an ruddy thats where positive disease blood came from you then you had sex with animals dog catswhatever an came to the western world putting fire in the butts of little boys a girls giving disease to all you raped an touched cause you come from animals thats why you have sex with animals on movies an in the privaxy of your own home because its tradition.we invented the shower an taught you how to take one ,how to shave an groom your hairy silverback ass so it doesnt bother us when you say nigger jusr apply it to the original nigger you an not the strawman you have created with your false sobriquets shave a monkey bald an its pale red an ruddy thats where positive disease blood came from you then you had sex with animals dog catswhatever an came to the western world putting fire in the butts of little boys a girls giving disease to all you raped an touched cause you come from animals thats why you have sex with animals on movies an in the privaxy of your own home because its tradition.we invented the shower an taught you how to take one ,how to shave an groom your hairy silverback ass so it doesnt bother us when you say nigger jusr apply it to the original nigger you an not the strawman you have created with your false sobriquets

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