Comments on: Black Like The Ancient Europeans: The Black (First) Europeans http://www.africaresource.com/rasta/sesostris-the-great-the-egyptian-hercules/black-like-the-ancient-europeans/ Rastafarian Views on Life, Politics and Social Issues Tue, 02 Dec 2008 14:22:58 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: Angolmois http://www.africaresource.com/rasta/sesostris-the-great-the-egyptian-hercules/black-like-the-ancient-europeans/#comment-24767 Angolmois Sat, 02 Aug 2008 20:05:51 +0000 http://www.africaresource.com/rasta/2006/04/01/black-like-the-ancient-europeans/#comment-24767 This article doesn't go far enough. In fact it is as misleading as it accuses modern history of being, on account of its labeling original men Africans. The name African is a Latin based word derived from Africus the indigenous Latin wind god representing a south westerly direction (in relation to Rome or Greece). Africa is merely the equivalent of Land to the South West and originally only a tiny piece of modern Tunisia was referred to by it. To think that this word is used to describe the original inhabitants of every continent, knowing what it actually means, one must question either the competency of the writer prescribing it or his ulterior, clandestine or guarded motives. Granted he may not be aware of the facts, he should still realize the word did not exist prior to the Grecian acquisition of the Pelasgians' lands. In other words, he uses this word to suggest a migration from Africa into Europe, when in fact Africa is the world's largest human reservation. Original men came to --no-- fled to Africa from every place else. This article doesn’t go far enough. In fact it is as misleading as it accuses modern history of being, on account of its labeling original men Africans.

The name African is a Latin based word derived from Africus the indigenous Latin wind god representing a south westerly direction (in relation to Rome or Greece). Africa is merely the equivalent of Land to the South West and originally only a tiny piece of modern Tunisia was referred to by it.

To think that this word is used to describe the original inhabitants of every continent, knowing what it actually means, one must question either the competency of the writer prescribing it or his ulterior, clandestine or guarded motives.

Granted he may not be aware of the facts, he should still realize the word did not exist prior to the Grecian acquisition of the Pelasgians’ lands.

In other words, he uses this word to suggest a migration from Africa into Europe, when in fact Africa is the world’s largest human reservation.

Original men came to –no– fled to Africa from every place else.

]]> By: human http://www.africaresource.com/rasta/sesostris-the-great-the-egyptian-hercules/black-like-the-ancient-europeans/#comment-21344 human Sun, 02 Mar 2008 02:40:10 +0000 http://www.africaresource.com/rasta/2006/04/01/black-like-the-ancient-europeans/#comment-21344 everything is a mutation, from the apes to the first homo sapiens, etc. race is an idea build by human. it doesn't matter if you black, brown, white, etc. all that bulls**t is in our head. racism is also an idea by human. we are all human and nothing else matter in this case. so one world one love and hoppfully one future. greetz everything is a mutation, from the apes to the first homo sapiens, etc.
race is an idea build by human. it doesn’t matter if you black, brown, white, etc. all that bulls**t is in our head. racism is also an idea by human. we are all human and nothing else matter in this case. so one world one love and hoppfully one future.
greetz

]]> By: Rasman http://www.africaresource.com/rasta/sesostris-the-great-the-egyptian-hercules/black-like-the-ancient-europeans/#comment-20462 Rasman Sat, 16 Feb 2008 00:11:55 +0000 http://www.africaresource.com/rasta/2006/04/01/black-like-the-ancient-europeans/#comment-20462 Jahdey; Thanks for reminding me about U6b. It is a minority in it's own right. Yes of course that lineage is also found in West Africa among some scattered other locations. I don't know too much about it but it deserves serious consideration. I think the U6a lines may have reached the Americas long before Columbus but there is much work to be done to prove that and I try to avoid speculation. As far as I know I don't have either of these lines but I find them very interesting nonetheless. The whole U group is interesting in that it also relates to Saami people who are very close in culture to Natie Americans. What is facinatig to me is that although all our brothers and sisters come from Africa originally, we still have these lines that did not evolve that far from their origins and are still identifiable in present African cultures. Now you got me stirred up on the U6b, I have to keep my eye out for any U6b DNA results here in America. We have some interesting and controversial U6a results already. Keep thinking and studying. Be well and keep the peace. Best Regards Rasman Jahdey;
Thanks for reminding me about U6b. It is a minority in it’s own right. Yes of course that lineage is also found in West Africa among some scattered other locations. I don’t know too much about it but it deserves serious consideration. I think the U6a lines may have reached the Americas long before Columbus but there is much work to be done to prove that and I try to avoid speculation. As far as I know I don’t have either of these lines but I find them very interesting nonetheless. The whole U group is interesting in that it also relates to Saami people who are very close in culture to Natie Americans. What is facinatig to me is that although all our brothers and sisters come from Africa originally, we still have these lines that did not evolve that far from their origins and are still identifiable in present African cultures. Now you got me stirred up on the U6b, I have to keep my eye out for any U6b DNA results here in America. We have some interesting and controversial U6a results already. Keep thinking and studying. Be well and keep the peace.
Best Regards
Rasman

]]> By: Rayman http://www.africaresource.com/rasta/sesostris-the-great-the-egyptian-hercules/black-like-the-ancient-europeans/#comment-20403 Rayman Fri, 15 Feb 2008 01:26:45 +0000 http://www.africaresource.com/rasta/2006/04/01/black-like-the-ancient-europeans/#comment-20403 Thanks Jahdey; I don't think they are that different. My guess is that when the first of our family to finally get out of Africa left the horn they went to Yemen not to the north. It was there that the J lines were gathered. Just a note, my family line to Africa was not broken until 6 generations ago and they came through Europe (Spain and France). So even in Europe our people maintained a singular community. I'm not saying that in any way other than the fact. I don't believe in racism or separatism coming from any direction Black or White. But there were clearly clades of Afro-Europeans presidig as distinct entities into at least the 1670s. Otherwise my line would not prove by DNA to be the same on all sides of the extended families. E3b1/J2b1. I am as equally proud to be a descendent of these brillant African pioneers from the horn as I am to be a direct descendent of the Capatin of the Huron Bear Clan among 17 other native American families. But I do get very disheartended to see lateral violence both among Africans as well as Amerindians (I am a Tribal Indain). Given our Afican history and how it spread globally, it just makes no sense to me. By the way, I look white since my mother was white. However, my father's family looks either Black, Asian or Amerindian depending on the child (14 of them). And yes I saw some discrimination first hand but life is not always easy. We just overcome and move on. Thank You for your response. I will read the link you have recommended. Best Regards Rasman Thanks Jahdey;
I don’t think they are that different. My guess is that when the first of our family to finally get out of Africa left the horn they went to Yemen not to the north. It was there that the J lines were gathered. Just a note, my family line to Africa was not broken until 6 generations ago and they came through Europe (Spain and France). So even in Europe our people maintained a singular community. I’m not saying that in any way other than the fact. I don’t believe in racism or separatism coming from any direction Black or White. But there were clearly clades of Afro-Europeans presidig as distinct entities into at least the 1670s. Otherwise my line would not prove by DNA to be the same on all sides of the extended families. E3b1/J2b1. I am as equally proud to be a descendent of these brillant African pioneers from the horn as I am to be a direct descendent of the Capatin of the Huron Bear Clan among 17 other native American families. But I do get very disheartended to see lateral violence both among Africans as well as Amerindians (I am a Tribal Indain). Given our Afican history and how it spread globally, it just makes no sense to me. By the way, I look white since my mother was white. However, my father’s family looks either Black, Asian or Amerindian depending on the child (14 of them). And yes I saw some discrimination first hand but life is not always easy. We just overcome and move on.
Thank You for your response. I will read the link you have recommended.
Best Regards
Rasman

]]> By: Jahdey http://www.africaresource.com/rasta/sesostris-the-great-the-egyptian-hercules/black-like-the-ancient-europeans/#comment-20400 Jahdey Fri, 15 Feb 2008 00:36:56 +0000 http://www.africaresource.com/rasta/2006/04/01/black-like-the-ancient-europeans/#comment-20400 Rasman What a global combination of genetic profile you have there. On your query: I think that U6 specifically U6b should be given more closer consideration in terms of the pioneer African migrants to the middle east. However, middle east and east Africa are basically the same land. The same ancient littoral landmass, the same topography, same animals, same plants, how do you figure the humans on both sides would be different. Read the Original Black African Arabs of Arabia series on this website. One love Jahdey Rasman

What a global combination of genetic profile you have there.

On your query: I think that U6 specifically U6b should be given more closer consideration in terms of the pioneer African migrants to the middle east.

However, middle east and east Africa are basically the same land. The same ancient littoral landmass, the same topography, same animals, same plants, how do you figure the humans on both sides would be different.

Read the Original Black African Arabs of Arabia series on this website.

One love

Jahdey

]]> By: Rayman http://www.africaresource.com/rasta/sesostris-the-great-the-egyptian-hercules/black-like-the-ancient-europeans/#comment-20398 Rayman Fri, 15 Feb 2008 00:14:23 +0000 http://www.africaresource.com/rasta/2006/04/01/black-like-the-ancient-europeans/#comment-20398 I have a fairly high degree of E3b1 lines in my genealogy. About 1/16th total and am proud to be of African as well as Amerindian, West Asian and Caucasian descent. From my study, it seems to be clear that the majority of matrilineage for the E3b family outside of Africa is from the J Haplogroup. In North West Africa it is from the U6a. Pesent day East Africans are typically in the L mtdna with some J among others. My questions is this: for those E3b pioneers who ventured out of Africa into the Middle East and Europe so long ago, what was the matrilineage of those males as it was subsequently lost to history with thier Semitic admixture along the maternal lines? Was it from the L Haplogroup or other? Thanks for your opinions on this. I'm am eager to hear. Rayman I have a fairly high degree of E3b1 lines in my genealogy. About 1/16th total and am proud to be of African as well as Amerindian, West Asian and Caucasian descent. From my study, it seems to be clear that the majority of matrilineage for the E3b family outside of Africa is from the J Haplogroup. In North West Africa it is from the U6a. Pesent day East Africans are typically in the L mtdna with some J among others. My questions is this: for those E3b pioneers who ventured out of Africa into the Middle East and Europe so long ago, what was the matrilineage of those males as it was subsequently lost to history with thier Semitic admixture along the maternal lines? Was it from the L Haplogroup or other?
Thanks for your opinions on this. I’m am eager to hear.
Rayman

]]> By: wisdom http://www.africaresource.com/rasta/sesostris-the-great-the-egyptian-hercules/black-like-the-ancient-europeans/#comment-20332 wisdom Wed, 13 Feb 2008 18:05:40 +0000 http://www.africaresource.com/rasta/2006/04/01/black-like-the-ancient-europeans/#comment-20332 Everything taken by Western culture and hidden in the dark shall come to light. Those that deny Africa/blackness at the head of all things shall bow on their knees when all truths are revealed. Response not to those that consider themselves skeptic and take their time on this board to spew ignorances, for they are influenced by the arrogance and greed of the west and the desire to want everything, including stolen history. Lust and greed shall gain no reward. Everything taken by Western culture and hidden in the dark shall come to light. Those that deny Africa/blackness at the head of all things shall bow on their knees when all truths are revealed. Response not to those that consider themselves skeptic and take their time on this board to spew ignorances, for they are influenced by the arrogance and greed of the west and the desire to want everything, including stolen history. Lust and greed shall gain no reward.

]]> By: Melaniki, Bossier City, Louisiana http://www.africaresource.com/rasta/sesostris-the-great-the-egyptian-hercules/black-like-the-ancient-europeans/#comment-20325 Melaniki, Bossier City, Louisiana Wed, 13 Feb 2008 14:46:47 +0000 http://www.africaresource.com/rasta/2006/04/01/black-like-the-ancient-europeans/#comment-20325 Erika, this is not about people being "angry" and "peace on earth good will toward men." This is about the restoration of a history that was deliberately distorted, destroyed and suppressed for centuries by a global white power collective, which needed to justify its agenda of white domination of the planet. To convince a people to be slaves, you needed to make them believe they came from nothing. This is not about how someone looks or your friends. This is about truth. Anyone who fears it is in alliance with error. You're not talking about real peace, because that cannot come so long as lies rule. You're talking about acquiescence. Fear of offending. But anyone who fears to offend others for a just cause, is a copping out. Peace through respect of equality and heritage is genuine, peace through surrender of one's identity to avoid discomfort, is cowardice. Erika, this is not about people being “angry” and “peace on earth good will toward men.” This is about the restoration of a history that was deliberately distorted, destroyed and suppressed for centuries by a global white power collective, which needed to justify its agenda of white domination of the planet. To convince a people to be slaves, you needed to make them believe they came from nothing. This is not about how someone looks or your friends. This is about truth. Anyone who fears it is in alliance with error. You’re not talking about real peace, because that cannot come so long as lies rule. You’re talking about acquiescence. Fear of offending. But anyone who fears to offend others for a just cause, is a copping out. Peace through respect of equality and heritage is genuine, peace through surrender of one’s identity to avoid discomfort, is cowardice.

]]> By: Erika http://www.africaresource.com/rasta/sesostris-the-great-the-egyptian-hercules/black-like-the-ancient-europeans/#comment-20201 Erika Mon, 11 Feb 2008 07:44:07 +0000 http://www.africaresource.com/rasta/2006/04/01/black-like-the-ancient-europeans/#comment-20201 Wow...there are some seriously angry people out there. What I don't get, and will never get, is how a person of one (ANY) color/race can cry racism and in the virtual next breath spew ignorance and hatred for all those opposite of themselves. Where I live "white/Caucasian" is minority. However, it is nearly impossible to tell until hearing someone speak. One of my best friends in the area was thought to be Italian, sounded Puerto Rican and surprised everyone with the reality of fleeing Iran mixed about garbage in back of a truck to save her 13 year old brother from his "military requirement". Every race/religion/creed has its flaws along with historical aghasts, but regardless of something as frivolous as appearance, shouldn't we ALL be contributing towards PROGRESS in this day and age?? Peace is a choice. Wow…there are some seriously angry people out there. What I don’t get, and will never get, is how a person of one (ANY) color/race can cry racism and in the virtual next breath spew ignorance and hatred for all those opposite of themselves.

Where I live “white/Caucasian” is minority. However, it is nearly impossible to tell until hearing someone speak. One of my best friends in the area was thought to be Italian, sounded Puerto Rican and surprised everyone with the reality of fleeing Iran mixed about garbage in back of a truck to save her 13 year old brother from his “military requirement”.

Every race/religion/creed has its flaws along with historical aghasts, but regardless of something as frivolous as appearance, shouldn’t we ALL be contributing towards PROGRESS in this day and age??

Peace is a choice.

]]> By: Cameeche http://www.africaresource.com/rasta/sesostris-the-great-the-egyptian-hercules/black-like-the-ancient-europeans/#comment-20121 Cameeche Sat, 09 Feb 2008 12:55:37 +0000 http://www.africaresource.com/rasta/2006/04/01/black-like-the-ancient-europeans/#comment-20121 Good reasoning here, I am loving it. Thanks so much! Let the truth be told. Thank You Yahawa! for taking the blind folds of my people's eye. Thats right, RISE UP MY PEOPLE..... HaleLuYah! Good reasoning here, I am loving it. Thanks so much! Let the truth be told. Thank You Yahawa! for taking the blind folds of my people’s eye. Thats right, RISE UP MY PEOPLE….. HaleLuYah!

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