The Fomorians
There are many oblique references to the presence of Black people in ancient Ireland. Ancient Irish mythology refers to the original inhabitants of the island as being a giant, sea-faring people called the Fomorians (Fomors), which means “dark of the sea”. According to the ancient lore, they were a cushitic people from the African continent. Often depicted as demons, they defeated the first few incoming waves of invaders, but could not defeat the Firbolgs, who settled the land and lived side-by-side with the native Fomors.
Those myths may have a factual historical basis. It is proposed that the Formorians were a real people who were in all likelihood sailors from the African continent.
Two more invasions, the first led by the godly Tuatha de Danaan, and the second by the Celtic Milesians, took control of Ireland, mixing together with the Fomorians until they were no more.
There are credible sources for the African association with Ireland. The most likely of these is that they were Phoenicians and/or Egyptians. The Phoenicians were Canaanites, which came from the line of Ham. Ham is the mythological ancestor of the Black nation.
The Phoenicians were also well-known for their sailing skills, and are said to have traveled to the British Isles, which they called the “Tin Islands”. Perhaps, before Ireland was a Celtic domain, which it wasn’t until a few centuries BCE, the Phoenicians colonized it. It is noteworthy that the name Fomorians sounds a bit like Phoenicians.
There is also a legend that an Egyptian princess, Scota, left Egypt with some followers and journeyed to Ireland. Legend has it that Egyptians left many ancient tin mines all over Britain but especially Ireland which was their major source of the valuable metal.
Another idea is that they were Taureg Berbers. The Berber language is Hamitic, and the Berber people live in an area from which travel to Ireland would be easily accessible. The Berbers perhaps set sail from western Morocco, and settled on Ireland before the Celts, making it their new home.
Moorish Science Temple founder Drew Ali teaches that Ireland was once part of a Moorish empire, and that the Irish are a Moorish people. Perhaps there is a common root between the “moor” sound in Fomor and the word Moor?
Selkies and Half-Breeds
Another Irish legend tells of the Selkies, a sort-of “wereseal” that is a seal during day, but a human by nightfall. Sometimes, in an Irish family of fair-skinned, light-haired people, a child is born with dark hair eyes, and skin, and is called a Selkie.
The concept of the Selkies appears to make subliminal reference to the half-breed children that resulted from the extensive miscegenation that occurred between the Celts and the dark skinned original inhabitants that they had met upon their arrival in Ireland.
Many people of Irish descent have distant and recent African roots, and these features can still be seen in the people and in the culture. There are some Irish people with Afros (just like Andre the Giant a late continental European wrestler with afro-hair). In Southern Ireland, some people, referred to as “Black Irish”, are noted for their strikingly dark features, as opposed to the fair-skinned, light-haired north.
Although many Irish descendants are particularly pale, they do have pronounced Africoid facial features, as well as dark brown eyes, and dark brown hair that is sort-of kinky, especially in moist conditions. A sub race of the Irish called the Bronn are noticeably Mediterranean (read: African) in features especially their hair.
In addition to all of this, Celtic music is distinctly different from the rest of Europe, and easily comparable to African music.
Black, Viking and Irish
Unlike Scotland and England, Ireland was never colonized by the Romans. As a result, Ireland remained relatively isolated.
The Vikings established port cities like Dublin. The Viking texts left stories and descriptions of African soldiers captured in Ireland whom they called blaumen[blue-men].
Most Viking references to ”black” in Norse would have signified having black hair as opposed to skin color but blaumen meant black skinned. Most of these blaumen were captured soliders from Moorish Spain. It was observed that:
“A prominent Viking of the eleventh century was Thorhall, who was aboard the ship that carried the early Vikings to the shores of North America. Thorhall was “the huntsman in summer, and in winter the steward of Eric the Red. He was, it is said, a large man, and strong, black, and like a giant, silent, and foul-mouthed in his speech, and always egged on Eric to the worst; he was a bad Christian.””
“Another Viking, more notable than Thorhall, was Earl Thorfinn, “the most distinguished of all the earls in the Islands.” Thorfinn ruled over nine earldoms in Scotland and Ireland, and died at the age of seventy-five. His widow married the king of Scotland. Thorfinn was described as “one of the largest men in point of stature, and ugly, sharp featured, and somewhat tawny, and the most martial looking man… It has been related that he was the foremost of all his men.””
What about Scotland and Wales?
“Any comprehensive account of the African presence in early Europe should include England, Ireland, Scotland, Wales and Scandinavia. The history and legends of Scotland confirm the existence of “purely Black people.” We see one of them in the person of Kenneth the Niger. During the tenth century Kenneth the Niger ruled over three provinces in the Scottish Highlands.
The historical and literary traditions of Wales reflect similar beliefs. According to Gwyn Jones (perhaps the world’s leading authority on the subject), to the Welsh chroniclers, “The Danes coming in by way of England and the Norwegians by way of Ireland were pretty well all black: Black Gentiles, Black Norsemen, Black Host.””
Ogu Eji Ofo Annu
Sources:
Ancient And Modern Britons, by David Mac Ritchie
Nature Knows No Color-Line, by J.A. Rogers
Its easy to figure it all out cause all you need is a book on all the Megalithic structures in Europe, they start around Egypt and work their way across northern Africa up the coast of Spain,Portugal,France and around the northern parts of Europe to the southern parts of Scandinavia, They branch out to the Celtic Isles , same style and culture built them and the Druids were in Ireland before the Celts came, they are almost 100% sure of that too. The picts were here first then came the Fomorians , some say they were from Denmark, the Firbolg were more likely from northern Europe ie Belgium and were Celts, the two waves of Celts that came after that are well written about in books today. And as of being pure white? i do not think such a thing exists today !!
we all know………… the truth on the origin,of human humane kind………. everyone in this age is a mix breed point blank….from moorish nordic indian…..etc…it it goes skin deep to our spiritual selfs…….we all have a purpose…these comments are funny
Folks, let’s try to keep in mind that the claims of African-Irish come from legend and mythology. The same origins that brought us leprechauns and pots of gold at the end of a rainbow.
Regarding two posts above – Claddagh women (with shawls) are from the Claddagh, a well known and written about part of Galway city. My recollection, but I am open to correction and learning, is that current scholarship says that the Irish people are NOT Celts.
I was born and raised in Ireland and now work in Africa. I have never seen a person born to Irish parents to have any african features.
I have seen some people in the south coast of ireland to have some strong spanish features but never african.
I believe we Irish are desended from Africa but i have never seen proof of this.
Are you that ignorant or just plain retarded. What African features are you looking for given Africa is more diverse than Europe? If you the African features you are looking for are bigger lips, thighs, hips and curlier hair, not all Africans possess those features. And do you honestly believe the only features you know to be African would survive in a place that is so far removed from Africa. Below is a link to a picture of Walter Francis White who is identified as an African American please identify for us his African features. And there is a town in Canada called Caledon where some slaves on the underground railway ended up.Now those slaves are dead, their graves are still standing and only “whites” are left in the town. Do you think all those people died without reproducing or does some of the whites in Caledon have a bit of black blood coursing through their vains and wont admit? Since the offspring of those so called black settlers and the whites would have reproduced with whites and more whites how black would you expect them to look?
One of the few remaining black settlements is called buxtown, a town outside chatham ontario. They have a nice little museum you can visit to learn more about the black people in that area. They have some pictures of the descendants of some of the settlers, please tell me if you can spot the african in all since you want to play spot the african.
http://www.buxtonmuseum.com/virtual-settlement/1-set-RESISTANCE.html
http://www.goodreads.com/author/show/193149.Walter_Francis_White
I am 100% certain that you ignorant and “chupid.” Where do you think the Spanish get their features? it is a known fact the moors were in spain but western europeans and their descendants whiten these moors because they are not comfortable with the significant contribution black people have made in genetics, legal, philosophy, art, science just to name a few.
And why would western Europe admit to the contributio
of Africans or the moors being black or the Egyptian being black or north Africans being because doing so would put an end to the myth of white world supremacy and put and end to the white witchcraft they are using to keep the world oin darkness and ignorance. you know whites are running scared when they are now reclassifying. black Africans as caucasians. since whites cannot survive the sun likr e dark skin people out of desperation they are reclassifying Africans as caucasians to bolstertheir claim of being the authors of civilization. To them that will explain the lack of people in those region. I also believe the whites who are more human anf enlightened tolerate the sun better than the ones who are shrouded in lies anf darkness. Just theory.
And Have you ever seen people from the caucsus mountain like the circassians? Not even them look like your typical white western European.
Jahdey……….Mor pronounced” murr” is Gaelic for Big/large/great………….not Moor.
Are you really so uncertain of yourself as a person to come up with this rubbish.
What we can say for certain is that the Human race originated in Africa therefore
we all share some proto ancestry.
Fenian, and what does Mohr mean in German? What does Muir mean in French?
The Muurs were the original nobility of Europe.
They bore the first Kings of Europe and their blood line still continues eventhough now diluted.
They were the first Nobles, that is why their national name “Muur” equates with: Nobility, Greatness, Sea-farer, Freeman, Builder.
Any Muur questions?
Nice one Jahdey, possibly something in it, just five Muur questions:
Baile mor =Moorish town ?
Bothar mor = Moorish road ?
Caislean mor = Moorish castle ?
Iasc mor = Moorish fish ?
Sceal mor = Moorish story ?
Gosh!
Etymology demonstrates the link between the words. For instance you have Franks, who became the French; you have Serfs who are now Serfants/Servants.
Like you have the phrase “mooring a ship”; which comes from the fact that Muurs were the greatest ship pilots the earth ever knew because they charted the entire seas.
You have the French word Mer, which means seas, which comes from the long association of the Muurs with the seas.
You have the Dutch word Mur, for walls or stone building because the Muurs were the frist master stone masons of Europe and later founded the Freemasonic sciences.
Gaelic rendering of mor comes from history of Muurs being associated with greatness and large sizes, for example the Fomuurian giants of gaelic histories.
Fegus Mor was the first recorded king of Scotland. He was a Muur. So was his descendants right up to Kenneth Dubh, the Black King.
There is more to history than the common agreed lies that we have all been force fed. Open your eyes, see with them!
The French word “mer” means sea, but the word comes from the Latin word for sea, which is “mare.” The name “Moor” comes from the Latin “Maurus,” which was the name given to the people who inhabited Mauritania. You seem ready to make connections that don’t exist and present conjecture as pure fact.
Neil you are a liar and a poor one. According to wickidpedia where you obtained your information, the word maurus not only pertains to the ancient Mauratenia (not to be confused with the modern country), saints and others.
According to the wiktionary, the following are definitions for maurus:
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From Ancient Greek ?????? (mauros, “dark”)
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Maurus m (feminine Maura, neuter Maurum); first/second declension
1. Of or pertaining to the Moors. 2. Moorish, Mauritanian. 3. (poetic) African
And you are trying to say there is no connection when there is. I think what jahdey is saying.is since moors where associated with sailing and since moors were known to navigate the sea, words that refers to sea is also linked to moors. I honestly don’t know why.you dont troll back to stormfront, niggermania chimpout and.stop defending yourself under different names.
First of all, my name really is Neil. I don’t know who niggermania chimpout is, but I assure you I don’t go on stormfront. Second, at what point did I lie?
All you have to do is look up the word Moor in a dictionary. It gives you the origin of the word. I wasn’t trying to argue that the word Moor doesn’t comes from the Latin word ‘Maurus.’ I know that’s where it comes from, which is why I wrote it in my post. I also don’t doubt that the ancient Greek word for dark is ‘mauros.’ That point is completely irrelevant. What I am arguing is that the French word for sea (mer) has absolutely no association with the Moors. Just because ‘mare’ and ‘Maurus’ look similar does not indicate that they are related.
I don’t doubt that North Africans sailed around the Mediterranean, but I highly doubt that they made their way to Ireland. If they did, there would be some archaeological evidence of their presence in Ireland. I am open to facts, Sailor Moon. Using insufficient etymological evidence isn’t going to cut it. If you want me to believe that there were Africans in Ireland I am going to need evidence.
And by the way, the term ‘mooring a ship,’ which means ‘to anchor,’ comes from the Middle Dutch word ‘meren’ which means ‘to tie.’ It has nothing to do with the Moors…. Another incorrect statement presented as fact.