Black Like The Ancient Europeans: The Black (First) Europeans
BLACK LIKE THE FIRST EUROPEANS
The first people of Europe were prehistoric Africans. They lived mostly in the southern parts of Europe, and created many paintings and cave art throughout the region.
Pretentious scholars struggling with their self-inflicted racist diseases attach ill-fitting names to the first peoples of Europe. They call them funny names like Neanderthals, Paleolithic men, Mesolithic or Neolithic, Cro-Magnons, Grimaldi, Aurignicians, in a desperate bid to hide the cultural and historical identity of those people.
It is generally conceded by those scholars however, that the African people were the bearers of the first substantive elements of culture into the European continent.
Many thousands of years before the rise of the current pale tribes of Europe, an Afrocoid people known as the Grimaldi people, established the Aurignacian cultures. These people were anatomically modern human beings of the West African typology. They brought the first indications of cultural thoughts and rites into Europe.
The Grimaldi were Black Africans with very little body hair, black and smooth skin; they had the facial features typical of West African forest dwellers. They had kinky hair too. They arrived in Europe 40,000 to 50,000 years ago.
They ranged in height from tall to medium. Their culture had developed in Africa tens of thousands of years before they moved to Europe. It was called the Arugnician Culture. In 1994, scientists found corroborating evidence of stone and bone tools on the banks of the Semlike River in Zaire. They were finely crafted tools made between 75,000 to 100,000 years old long before modern humans migrated to Europe.
The Neanderthals non-modern human specie of man had left Africa early in time (80,000 years ago) and settled in central and southern Europe. It is speculated by bio-anthropologists that the genes of those Neanderthals are extensively sown in the modern European tribes of today.
The “Cro-Magnon,” people, late contemporaries and perhaps descendants of the Grimaldi people also existed in Central and Southern Europe many thousands of years after the Grimaldi Negroid had expanded to Europe but before the appearance of the pale version of Europe now known as Caucasians.
Actually, Caucasians as a race did not appear in Europe until about twenty to thirty thousand years after the arrival of the first Africans who by this very fact are the aboriginals of Europe.
WHENCE COMETH THE PALE ONE
There are many theories which seek to explain the reason for the switch in skin color of the Europeans. The theories proposed range from the Ice-Age effect theory, to those of miscegenation and others that suggest malnutrition. In all these theories lies the admission that the pale skin is a relatively recent genetic modification that occurred in originally Black Europe.
One of the more interesting propositions suggest that the change from black to pale Europe occurred as a result of miscegenation between the modern Africans arrivals in Europe and the primordial Neanderthal which had originally come from Africa. It should be noted that the primordial human Neanderthal (physiologically and intellectually) said to be among the ancestors of Europeans and Caucasians, also came from Africa to Europe about 80,000 years ago. Thus, the Neanderthal, which had apparently been forced to Eurpe from out of Africa, was also of the African genotype.
Some theories suggest that Neanderthals (who were originally black as all original Africans) later became pale-skinned and retained excessive body hair due to genetic selection responding to the need to adapt to the cold and darkness of Ice-Age Europe.
The modern day Europeans are the products of interbreeding between these mutated pale skin Neanderthals (i.e. mutated non modern-human Africa) and the later arriving modern black Africans of 40,000 -10,000 years ago i.e. the Grimaldis.
Warm blooded animals undergo de-pigmentation in the absence of light and warmth. If there were no Ice Age in Europe, the people would have remained Negroid/Black. Some of the darkest Africoid peoples still exist as the Australian Aborigines and Tasmanians. Their ancestors left Africa in the same waves as the Africans that went to Europe. It appears that of the anatomically modern human Africans who had migrated around the globe, those in the warmer southern climates retained their African pigmentation and those in the Northern climates lost theirs as a result of miscegenation with the pale skinned Neanderthals, who it should not be forgotten were originally of the African continent.
Ogu Eji Ofor Annu,
April 1, 2006
April 8th, 2006 at 9:34 am
That was a great piece of my culture i knew nothing about thank you but my mind is still thristy
April 26th, 2006 at 3:01 pm
You people really shouldn’t be so impressed by this. There aren’t even any citations in this one. Is it an April Fools’ joke? Well, since a simple assertion is so powerful on this site, that’s what I’ll use, and I won’t cite my arguments either.
First of all, this Grimaldi nonsense is taken from Diop, who’s anything but reputable. The Grimaldi’s were Cro-Magnon (read: Caucasoid), not Negroid. They’re associated with the Gravettian culture, not the Aurignacian culture, which spread into Europe from the Middle East anyway. There’s no evidence of prehistoric migrations across the Strait of Gibraltar. The first Europeans came from Central Asia, as proven by genetic analysis. Later migrations came from the Middle East, and are also proven by population genetics.
About the Neanderthals: I challenge absolutely anyone to find a source seriously claiming that modern Europeans and Middle Easterners are descended from Neanderthals. You won’t find any. I’ve looked. Rather, everything you’ll find will argue the opposite, if it’s up-to-date, that is. The Neanderthals were wiped out by modern humans as they migrated into the Middle East and Europe. There’s no genetic evidence that they miscegenated, but there is evidence that they didn’t, due to the genetic distance between them and homo sapiens sapiens.
It’s not held by mainstream science that the first humans had black skin, nor that they were even Negroid. They rather had skin that was relatively “dark” or merely “brown”, as it’s most often put, much like that of Middle Easterners and South Asians, and it’s believed that before this it was even lighter, possibly even “white” like that of chimpanzee’s, to whom humans are most closely related. Also, many scientists believe that the humans that inhabited northeastern Africa and that populated the rest of the world were more Caucasoid rather than Negroid, again, much like Middle Easterners and South Asians, and that this is why “Caucasoid” peoples can be found around the world.
Lastly, white skin probably first appeared in the Middle East and then spread up into Europe and around to other parts of the world.
I touch on most of these topics here (African Roots of Ireland)
April 26th, 2006 at 4:21 pm
I’ve decided that I left too much room for elaboration on some topics in my previous reply, so I’ll expand on them here.
I mentioned white skin originating (in it’s modern form anyway) among ancient Middle Easterners, yet asserted that Middle Easterners have brown skin. Many Middle Easterners do indeed have brown skin, but many also have white skin, as I point out in the other article to which I’ve linked. Also, to contradict the assertion in this article that Australian Aborigines have “retained their African pigmentation”, many Australian Aborigines have white skin such as Evonne Goolagong, Troy Cassar-Daley, Anthony Mundine, and Aden Ridgway. The reason for this, as some anthropologists speculate, is that white skin re-appeared soon after those early humans left Africa and can be seen in such people around the world such as these individuals, many Middle Easterners and East Asians, and some Polynesians such as Kiri Te Kanawa, whom I mention in my other posts. However, some among the Aboriginal Australians obviously either did retain or re-acquired black or brown skin, but it’s not universal.
Those of you who are convinced by this person’s articles should really do more mainstream reading, or get an education. The dispersion of misinformation is never a good thing.
June 8th, 2006 at 9:11 am
Main stream science, huh? Isn’t that the same one that defined blacks as having the brain of apes? We refuse to refer to mainstream education. And if that is what you call education, well it is hight time the Negro got miseducated.
Now, for serious remark and work on the movement of blacks from Africa to the north during pre-historic time, please check with Paul Rivet, René Verneau, Henri Breuil, and Marcelin Boule… they have produced, in the early 20th century amazing works that support what the brother says…. But, they speak French… oops…. Maybe you should get some form of education… Pale Brother….
June 9th, 2006 at 3:49 pm
If the original article demonstrates one thing it’s that people with an axe to grind should not post pseudo-scholarly essays on the internet.
June 12th, 2006 at 2:27 am
Would you please be so kind and give book references for your argumentation? I would like read it up for myself and get more into detail. Nevertheless, I give thanks that you shed light on so many things. Nuff respect. Bless.
June 12th, 2006 at 4:14 am
It appears that an “education” has been recommended to me, yet “mainstream” is discouraged. I suppose you suggest I become “miseducated”. If you can’t handle fact, then I suppose sticking your head in the ground is the best way to deal with history, huh? So who are these people? I looked them up, but found nothing informative. Are they *mainstream*? If so, then they write of nothing not covered by English-speakers, and if not then they have an axe to grind (assuming their arguments are concurrent with yours, and that you weren’t confused and misunderstood them). If you wish to be persuasive, then explain their pertinence.
It’s interesting how there are so many comments about skin color in this forum. They’re always about “pale” skin, too. Now it seems that “Negro” is color-conscious as well. Aside from this obsession with “pale” skin, there’s a preoccupation with Europe, as evidenced by the recent explosion in articles pertaining to it (i.e. the “Black Europeans” series and “How Africa Civilized Europe; How Europe is in Denial”), arguing that black people have influenced Western Civilization and the white world (via Egypt, of course, which has never been black). I sense a tinge of envy. As I pointed out to another user here, when black people obsess about white people and their history, as you Rastamorons have done on this site, then they’re still in the bonds of slavery.
June 12th, 2006 at 4:58 pm
Kebba
Just check out the other articles on Black Europeans series on this site. You will get more than enough citations. Should you require more, just let us know.
One love
Jahdey
June 13th, 2006 at 4:24 pm
“One love” my ass, Jahdey. Let me just quote kebba :
“Sigh… It appears as though some black people are so completely at a lost to answer Western power that they’ve resorted to trying to claim it as their own in mind-bogglingly awful acts of historical revisionism.”
June 13th, 2006 at 5:40 pm
Oops - that’s a misquote (”Mantoman” said it), but it’s still applicable.
June 21st, 2006 at 12:10 pm
There is another way to approach this subject of the original skin color of humanity. Biological Genetics. An internet search on the subject from any search engine will give you articles from many mainstream scientific publications. The Japanese seem to be doing most of the research. Even some of the more popular publicaitons such as NYTimes and Time magazine have carried articles on the subject of why some people are pigmented while others are not. Generally these articles do not comment on which came first melaninated or non-melanated people. It gives the facts, such as: Even the whitest of skin contains enough melanoocytes (epithellial cells able to produce melanin), that if activated; that white person would be as black as the blackest African. What is lacking in this white skinned person is a piece of genetic code that would enable the production of an enzyme that enables melanin production. Those cells are essentially switched off in the white-skinned individual. But they are there. Now, what does that say to the educated, mainstream individual?
And as far as Western power goes. Any lay-student of ancient history knows how cyclical these cultural-power reigns are. Look far enough back in history my friend and you will find that at one time, white skin was synonymous with the conditions of wretchedness, barbarism, ignorance, physical ugliness, and a host of other negatives.
July 6th, 2006 at 3:12 pm
I am so glad that your website is doing this. I have taken great interest in studies such as this. I recently did a paper in one of my history classes on the African origins of China. I had so much genetic evidence. A lot of this evidence came from Chinese geneticists themselves who have proven that there is no way that early Chinese people looked the way they do now. Furthermore I also have citations and other evidence from Caucasian scholars from Harvard, Emory, and international schools in Russia, China and other places that I can not remember from the top of my head, but can supply upon request. I also would like to mention that Africa has been denied of the many contributions that it has given to the world, and ignorant racist people such as the skeptic are still trying to claim White supremacy. For him to say that the Egyptians are not Black shows his ignorance. I had an aunt who went to Egypt last summer to study. Not only did she find that the ancient Egyptians were Black, but when she went down to southern Eypt she saw the descendants of them. She even has pictures. The Blacks had been pushed down to the southern part where it is mainly a poor area. The genetic information has already proven that all races come from Black people, and that there was a migration from the African continent to other parts of the world that caused for the existance of other races. How do I know, well I am a sociology/anthropology, music, comparative women’s studies major, with a pre-med concentration. Yes I have three majors, in addition to three minors. I have been studying this area of history for many years. To your skeptic, I just want to say that there are many other people besides Runoko Rashidi who are acknowledging this-including prominent Caucaisian scholars such as the man who wrote the book Black Athena. I am not going to debate too long on this because many people in this society just don’t want to believe that Black people are a great people. As I stated before, if anyone would like to read my paper and the sources, e-mail me at lhebrewgirl@hotmail.com. Yes I am a young, Black woman and the true people of Israel-some who still live there today-were Black.
July 6th, 2006 at 5:09 pm
Lauren
I would love to read your paper and check out your references.
One Love
Jahdey
July 8th, 2006 at 8:23 pm
Please don’t address any percentage of the black race. Black people aren’t envious. The only thing that would make us angry is the fact that an entire ancestrial race would attempt and enslave another race, a race that has nothing to do with them; never heard anything in history about Africans enslaving the entire white race all over the world. White skin is your skin and my brown/black skin is my skin. I think your people confuse the black communities’ anger for discourse of slavery with envy. You would be angry, if your people were suddenly snatched and enslaved against will. Don’t let the variety of skin color (really melanon in skin) boggle your mind. It shouldn’t be a mistery, if it is in you. If your cells that produce melanons were working or not dormant, you would be blacker than the blackest African and vise versa for other races. Wow, now isn’t that a fact?
July 12th, 2006 at 12:18 am
Hi, Skeptic,
just to put you straight, no malice intended, Evonne Goolagong, Anthony Mundine, and Kiri te Kanawa have not reverted to being white as you have indicated, but actually have a european parent/grandparent.
Cheers
Bazza
July 16th, 2006 at 6:53 pm
Interesting that nobody has so far mentioning the geographical factors that facilitated the difference in human skin tone, it’s quite simple, the tilt and positioning of the planet in relation to the sun, will generally dictate what hue of skin colour you will be. The modern day American/South African/ Australian caucatians, are decidedly and will increasingly become darker than their European counterparts. I lived in Europe as Brown skinned African for over 30yrs and I also have developed a distate for sunny climes and my skin peels in direct sunlight. What do you make of that?
July 16th, 2006 at 6:59 pm
Also read your history of Africa before making any disparaging remarks about the sub-saharan african race(cynic). Before the advent of modern european superiority ideologies and the use of the word black and white, there was a constant exchange of ideologies and intermingling between the so called ‘black’ africans and pale skinned europeans. e.g. Queen of Sheba
July 23rd, 2006 at 3:14 pm
Albinism occurs in virtually every species. Some Western Europeans (Irish and Basque) are located in coastal communities directly on the path of an African migration. Along the way, due to the reduced sunlight and less energy spent by the body on melanin (pigment) production, albino Africans would be favored by natural selection. In regards to the facial features, those will change due to climate as well.
Eastern and Central Europe may be another story. Genetics seems to indicate they have more Asian ancestry. There is also the possibility of neanderthal admixture too.
August 16th, 2006 at 6:46 am
This will shut you all up.
Race is a touchy subject
October 15th, 2006 at 6:45 pm
This article is a prime example of Internet shillery, or decoy knowledge.
The premise of the article is correct and searchable, but its contents are spurious.
To begin with the dates quoted are all laughable as is the reference to aboriginal Europeans being “Africoid” — a term derived from the aryan language of a supplanting white tribe (the Latins).
The truth is, the first people in Europe were indeed black people, but here’s the kicker.
They didn’t come from Africa. Instead they were driven there.
November 3rd, 2006 at 3:58 am
Enough with history. Blacks once ruled the world but they do not any more. blacks let us unite, enslave and kill these pale genetic mistakes of nature.
November 13th, 2006 at 12:16 pm
The problem is that white people would love to keep black folks mind captured with slavery, text book history for all public schools. We are the originators of all things such as religion. Which has been copied by white people. Any race of people who will kill little black kids, hang,slave,rape black women, cut thier stomachs open and kill a unborn black baby,take our god and promise land, and thats all because of a holy skin tone white people can’t have. The point i’m making is black people are waking up from the dead and no matter what any body says about our culture,which was lost, but is being found. Deal with those facts and or better yet just ask the pope who prays to the black jesus and the black madonna behind close doors.
December 1st, 2006 at 8:02 am
The best website ever check it out
http://www.hebrewisraelites.org
December 3rd, 2006 at 12:40 pm
who cares about skin color. history, science, knowledge are the point
December 5th, 2006 at 8:28 am
I think this is a great disscusion,I am a second year student who is a secondary ed history major. I plan on teaching in the public school system just because of myths and mistruths that I feel all people are learning in the U.S. This something I think all people should reasearch. It is said that blacks haven’t contributed many things to this country when in actuallity we have contributed almoast everything from the foundation of this country (be it through ancestry or slavery)to little things in everyday life like music. We as a people just want the truth to be told. Give credit were credit is due.
December 7th, 2006 at 5:48 pm
People of African descent, or better from ancient Kemet, just keep researching, and don’t mind those racist pigs. The truth will eventually overwhelm them, and they will wither away.
Albert
December 25th, 2006 at 12:08 pm
I’m a 19 year old college student from Bowling Green State University. I’m brown skinned, and have been educated in the Moorish science of Islam since i was young. Yes black people were the first people, and yes white people were the last. I won’t go into detail, because true moorish history might bring about war to many of todays ignorant minds… The real thing that should be realized here is that there are many races of people. Yet we are all people in the end, man and mankind. Yes true history should be released, and brought to the masses for education.. but not for war, and hate… but for peace and love. Not for black supremacy or current white supremacy.But for all humans to achieve ISLAM.. I, self, Law, am, master. For all man and mankind to become wise educated masters, and to live in peace and harmony. No matter what race you are, you are a thinking reasoning human being, and knowing that in fact… how could you let yourself have hate for anyone just because of the amount of melanin in the skin. Yes, i’m dark skinned, and sport a kinky fro… but i’m not for black supremacy… i just promote peace, love, and harmony amongst all humans– because all life is a miracle and should be charished
January 16th, 2007 at 6:00 pm
What do you think of this theory.
During the times of the first humans (in Africa), the temperatures were not as hot as today. In Europe the Ice Age spread the ice cap all the way down to the fringes of the Alps, rendering the continent uninhabitable apart from the Mediterranean belt, whose climate conditions would be like in the Scandinavian countries today. As the temperatures increased and the ice cap slowly melted away, the climatic conditions in Europe over time bacame closer to those in Africa earlier, and Africa was becoming hotter and hotter. Those more advanturous Africans who decided to go North retanied their white skin as they, in effect, did not change the climatic environment but were rather following the same one their predecesors lived in further down in Africa. Those less advanturous who stayed in Africa gradually became darker and darkers as the climate got hotter and hotter.
Now, the advaturous nature of those who had the courage and the spirit to explore new and better things is being reflected in the genes of the Europeans even in the contemporary history. After all, the European nations have been the most developed and dominant in the history known to us and all due to the curiousity they have shown and the technological advances they have made.
Just breifly on the racial and slavery issues brushed over in earlier comments.
Of course, once one group gains advantage it is inevitable they will use it to get the scarce resources for themselves. That can also lead to deformity in human morality such as slavery, which I strongly condemn.
March 1st, 2007 at 10:22 am
There are a number of scholarly references that support the original message or claim. Review them at your pleasure or bravity.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_people
March 5th, 2007 at 9:33 am
To start off, I am pissed.
I am 28 years old. I am white.
I stumbled onto this site trying to find scientific reasoning as to why I am white.
I have always considered white people freaks amongst modern humanity.
Pale skin, all colors of eyes, black, brown, blonde and red hair.
I always hypothesized that the reason must have been a mixture into the neanderthal species. (which is what I was also looking up)
Genetics found a timeline for the gene that makes my skin white. Which was 20,000 years involving neanderthal. (I’m not saying they proved they bred, but apparently they lived around each other for a long time)
The thing that pisses me off is. I was looking for reason, I found angst.
I don’t know what schools some of you went to but I was pretty much blatantly told how crap I was all through school.
I enslaved africans, I stole land from native americans, I imprisoned asians, I caused africans to hold lower paying jobs, I instituted the stereotype that all asians were comic relief, I stereotyped native americans as drunks, I stereotyped africans as criminals.
I DIDN’T DO ANY OF THAT!!!
I was told, it was beaten into my head, that my ancestors had done horrible things to others based on skin color!
I came here for information of a scientific nature (damn google)
I didn’t come here to hear even more of why I am a piece of refuse.
I live in montana, USA.
I’ve met blacks I didn’t get along with but they compare 1/1000 of the whites I despise!
I am asatru. (also called Odinist)
I hate the fact that neo nazis and hitler took these original beliefs and made them a race issue.
That belief exchanged goods (believed to have been peacefully) with middle easterners.
The Moors were part of society.
Their was a black leader of rome.
These are all things I’ve read.
I thought everyone knew that Elvis did black music. But it’s music, would you say christianity is a “brown” religion?
Not black, not white, middle eastern.
I’ve been told my whole life how horrible I am.
I work in a gas station. I have protected more people from abusive husbands, drunk cat-callers even racists.
Why do I deserve this?
No science teacher ever told me that blacks didn’t contribute to society. They told me that whites enslaved them. They told me that Eli Whitney developed the cottongin. They never told me what color he was. I don’t know even now. Apparently it was a woman who developed it btw. He stole it.
The most shocking thing that I was taught in school that I thought everyone knew was thrown at me last year.
One of my buddies mom is a hardcore christian, while bored at her house waiting for said friend I red one of the magazines. It was a black gospel singer saying that until she was older she never knew that white people also fought for black equality.
So because of my skin I am racist?
If I could go back in time believe me, I would be bashing the heads in of anyone who denied a black student. Working at a gas station I am the only person I’ve ever heard of who threatened to kick a black individual out of my store for saying the word, “Nigger” while he was on his cell phone. that word points out everything “I” supposedly am.
I don’t “think” I’m a rascist. I will always notice the differences between people who are not me.
Will the tall scrawny white people stick out in my mind? Yes.
Will the fat white people stick out in my my mind? yes.
Will I see bonuses to both sets of individuals? yes.
And I’ll see them in everyone.
@#%^ the elephant man has bonuses I can see.
I can’t understand why I as an individual deserve the angst of someone who has classified me.
I am not that white guy walking around “acting” black. I would call it acting “gangsta-from-what-they-see-on-TV”.
I have met a ton of racists, I’m white so apparently all white racists think it’s okay to use an racial profanity around me (cause I’m white) as long as no one darker is around.
So yeah I know it’s out there. I thought all this junk was supposed to have died in the sixties.
I guess I’ve been thrown into society while I was ignorant of how society was.
I’m pissed, once again I am supposed to take on the burden of my ancestors or my “supposed” peers.
Yeah I’m racist, I hate us all.
Erlyk Dalkien
Including me.
March 5th, 2007 at 9:46 am
Okay, upon thinking about it. I can understand in some way or other.
The most angst ridden posts here are people looking for where they come from.
I do the same thing but it has to do with religion.
I stumbled onto the old religion of the germanic countries.
It made more sense to me as for the first time I felt like I actually had a culture.
I’m adopted, I’m obviously white, I have no family tree. The only culture I knew of anyone white was negative.
There were positive things.
(well before enslavement, america, rome, christianity)
after that it apparently distorted…..crap I don’t know.
If anyone is offended by what I’ve said……I’m sorry you were offended.
Since apparently I stumbled onto a racist column.
What were the Quakers?
I would have been a Quaker had it not been religious. The sad thing is that regardless of what I know about myself no one will believe me as there is now no longer any way to prove my honor.
Erlyk Dalkien
March 5th, 2007 at 9:51 am
why I look up anything drunk is beyond me. That’s not escaping anything I’ve said, I’ll defend it. Written words suck however, they can be interpretted in a variety of ways.
I would not have posted sober, however I do not recant what I’ve written in they way that I’d intended.
(I really hate having to lawyer-speak myself)
Erlyk Dalkien
April 5th, 2007 at 10:44 am
There were actually statuettes found of the Grimaldi people. The statuetts gave physical features of Negroid type people. Pieces of this art are found in Russia and Siberia. You will not find many statuetts in the continent of Africa based of African History because most of them have been purchased or found by French or British scientist/archaeologist and have been moved to museums In their country. With this said, the old statuetts are no being replaced by statues they may reflect or show refabrication or as if the kings and queens were white instead of African, Egyptian, Nubian, and or Ethiopian. (IN OTHER WORDS BLACK). The Grimaldis disapeared around 12,000 bc. Their grave site however have been invaded and show some indication as well that these people were of Negroid type. Mark Hyman book Black Before America and a book by Graham Clarke Dawn of Civilization should help you out with citations.
April 26th, 2007 at 9:08 am
I am sure deep inside everyone knows,the worlds first people were Black.Mainstream scientist even prove that the earliest human skulls are found where?Thats right in Africa.All other races in one way or another decended from Africans.Black people also ruled the world for thousands of years.Now the white man has (control).History shows us nothing last forever ater the whiteman it might be the asians who takeover.The fact still remains that Africans originated everything in some form or another,Even though racist white people would have us belive every lie that was ever told about the black race.White people came to power by backstabbing,murder,rapeing and kidnapping every other race thats been kind to them.So do every other race dirty is nothing to be proud about for you whites who love to boast.Rather you should be ahsamed that your fathers called themselves christians and did the exact opposite of what christianity stands for.To my people one love,Be proud to be black.Be proud to be of thee originators.PEACE!
April 26th, 2007 at 9:27 pm
Black is beautiful and ignorance is bliss. So rejoice in these sayings for they describe you.
Whether the first modern humans to populate the Earth were black is important (historically), but what is even more so is what their descendants have accomplished and what they might still accomplish.
We all descended from ape-like creatures. We all descended, if we go further back in time, from single-cell organisms. These are facts. So, does that mean that single-cell organisms which have spread to all regions of the Earth are greater than their descendants, humans for one? I think few would agree with this. And if you do subscribe to this, then you should show more modesty and respect when you consider single cell organisms like cholera, typhoid, etc. The truth is that what matters is not the “glory” times of past , real or imagined, as much as we would like not to think otherwise, but the present and the future.
Human beings exists today in a number of colors. Blacks of post-global migration that have adapted to their new environments, through no intrinsic fault of their own, and those of pre-global migration blacks that predominantly still reside in Africa are different not only in color. They are different not only in form either. They are most importantly different in kind of mind they possess. Arguably, the blacks the left our Mother country, Africa, were the explorers, the discoverers, the creative, the brave, and the wise. What was left behind was quite the opposite. One can even call it the world’s first great “brain drain”.
P.S. I strongly recommend that ALL of you see the movie, “Blood Diamonds”(2006). In it you might possibly come to realization that there just might be something fundamentally wrong with all those blacks who never explored beyond the next hill to find undiscovered worlds like those who left Africa did before them. In such an act they were eventually transformed into a higher state of existence. All humans alive today came from Africa. Africa belongs to all of us (Asians, Blacks, whites). And we will come back to claim all that is rightfully ours! Africa our ancestral homeland.
May 22nd, 2007 at 6:37 pm
Whites are simply the product of the first albino born in africa of two black parents.In other words whites are the result of africans bad genes.Do the research
May 28th, 2007 at 2:40 am
I believe, it has been prooven by Mythocondrial DNA, that we are all descendents of one African mother. What happened during evolution is not the issue. The real issue is that we ,modern humans, seem to have no respect for the place that gave birth to our kind! Only Unity not difference will save Africa from the grip of the corruption and the imperialist money makers!! Wake up!!
June 9th, 2007 at 1:29 pm
! have been reading the comments with a lot of interest. I am a white Norwegian and know the origin of the modern man lies in Africa, no question about it (Lucy). My interest in the website was pure grounded in science. I do not have any education in any of the directions mentioned above, I’m a pure layman.
My theory is: One need sunshine to produce vitamin D. Is pale skin better to absorb vitamin D then black skin, so that one better can survive conditions with lesser sunshine?
I pardon my lesser English, and hope my reply isn’t all faar out.
Sincerely Argon
June 9th, 2007 at 4:18 pm
Movies movies,roman(tics),hollywood-couldnt be futher from the truth. No African countries ever mass produced weapons of mass destruction.most of,if not all of mining corporations are owned by multi-nationals(?)Black has the most potential to absorb vitamins(energy)…e.g Blackholes.
June 19th, 2007 at 4:39 pm
“DNA tests have shown that the percentage of Greeks who have Middle Eastern or African DNA in them is less then 2%. Semino et al. [10] studied DNA samples of Greeks from the Greek region that show influences from the Near/Middle East and North Africa in historical times are unlikely, and amount to something like less then 2%; in additonal two specific haplogroups E and J which are frequent in the Mediterranean region and can be used to detect population movements between Europe, Africa and the Near East have found that 2.4% of Greeks belong in haplogroup E-M123 and 21.4% in E-M78. Clades of E prevalent in Northern or Sub-Saharan Africa were not found. According to Cruciani et al. [11] most Greeks and other Balkan people belong to a specific cluster a within haplogroup E-M78 that is found in lower frequencies outside the Balkans and marks migrations from the Balkan areas not into it. E-M123 and its daughter haplogroup E-M34 originated in the Anatolia in prehistoric times. As for haplogroup J, most Greeks belong to J-M172 and its subclades which is associated with Neolithic population movements. The results show the majority of Greeks belong to a specific cluster of gene pool that is found within the Balkans. Only 0.4% are possible non-Caucasoid contribution to the Greek gene pool and 2% are of ME contributions. This shows that Greeks are closer related to the peoples of the Balkans then any other groups of people (African/Semetic/ME) groups. The emerging picture of Y chromosome variation in Greece indicates genetic continuity, with slight influences from neighboring Caucasoid regions and virtually no influence from non-Caucasoids groups. The mitochondrial DNA of Greeks was examined and was found to be predominantly mostly with comprehensive European- mtDNA caucasoid, with a total precentage of less then 1.6% which come from Mediterranean-Eastern, Asian, African. The Greeks, like most Europeans are fairly pure in terms of their maternal ancestry.
Highly polymorphic DNA loci were tested in Greek population samples residing in geographic areas of Greece, populations of Greeks from Asia Minor/N. Africa living in eastern and central Macedonia (Figure 1) and compared to skeleton remains from ancient Greek burial grounds from antiquity. These population groups were chosen to provide material that is relevant to the cultural, historical, and genetic questions regrading Greek migrations through out the centuries. Eastern Macedonia is a region north of the Aegean where Neolithic settlements appeared. In central Macedonia there are many excavation sites, such as Dion, Aiges, Pella, Edessa, and Sindos, and the oldest Neolithic settlement was found in Nicomedia, between the Aliakmonas and Axios rivers, which were important for the transmission of farming to Europe from the Axios valley. In Thessaly the fertile plains are of central importance for the first farmers of Europe, where the Neolithic (5000-4000 B.C.) settlement of Sesklo was found. In the mountain region of Epirus there are possible preNeolithic elements. Finally, the Greeks from Asia Minor & N. Africa were chosen because of the Greek presence that was in those regions and the Fertile Crescent of the Near East prior 1922 due to Greek migration from the Greek mainland since antiquity. No statistically significant heterogeneity (p > 0.30) was observed in the gene frequencies between the pooled Greek data and other European populations(Schnee-Griese et al. 1993; Buscemi et al. 1994; Klintschar and Kubat 1995; Martin et al. 1995; Pestoni et al. 1996; Rose et al. 1996; PerezLezaun et al. 1997). At the DI S80 and DI 7S5 loci the allele frequencies were not significantly different between our pooled data and data from other studies on the Greek population (p = 0.48 and p = 0.61, respectively) (Hatzaki et al. 1995). These results support the notion of Alonso et al. (1995) that the allele frequencies of microsatellite loci are well preserved in Europeans. In conclusion, this survey provides the allele frequencies for the construction of a Greek genetic database, indicates that any peculiarities of some markers that may be able to discriminate between population samples from Greece, points toward the similarity of the Greek population sample to other European populations, and interpret the genetic data in light of the known history of the studied populations. No significant differences with other European populations were found for the loci studied.” -Genetic studies in Greek population samples using 12 highly polymorphic DNA loci: Human Biology, Wayne State University Press Feb 1999
What this research shows is that genetic research proves ancient Greeks and modern Greeks show no “African” origins to them. According to Cruciani et al. [11] Most Greeks and other Balkan people belong to a specific cluster a within haplogroup E-M78 that is found in lower frequencies outside the Balkans and marks migrations from the Balkan areas not into it. I also find it interesting how you neglect to point out the caucasian features of those pictures you call “African” and did not provide the many Minoan Frescoes and ancient Greek artifacts that cleary depict Minoans as tanned and fair people with caucasian features.
June 19th, 2007 at 4:42 pm
Sorry replied to the wrong thread
June 26th, 2007 at 1:26 pm
“Black” and “White” skin are adaptations to certain conditions, nothing more. If you have darker skin and live in a sunny climate then you are less likely to get skin cancer or a really bad sunburn, that could otherwise kill a lighter skinned person. A person has lighter skin because their ancestors lived in a climate with less sunlight and therefore got enough Vitamin D. People with darker skin in those climates had more miscarriages and were prone to developing rickets and so were bred out of the gene pool. It’s that simple. Neither is superior to the other, they are just adaptations to varying degrees of sunlight.
As to everyone having come from Africa. Yes, people did come from that geographic region; specifically from the tip of the country we now call South Africa. Blombos cave has the oldest anatomically modern human remains dated at around 100,000 years old. However, it is ridiculous to say that we are all African. Nationalistic ideas like this did not even come into existence until around 200 years ago. Africa is so large and diverse it is folly to wrap it all up into one convenient thought package. We have all come a long way in 100,000 years, especially culturally. Culture and where our more recent ancestors came from is how we identify ourselves. Though doubtlessly it would be better and more humanistic to just see us as one global species, instead of so divisively stratified by skin color, religion/beliefs, and national borders.
July 5th, 2007 at 4:52 pm
You guys should read, The Journey of Man; A Genetic Odyssey:By Spencer Wells. This will remove the ignorance
August 7th, 2007 at 11:48 am
Over the last two decades, the Pleistocene sites of the Sierra de Atapuerca (Spain) have provided two extraordinary assemblages of hominin fossils that have helped refine the evolutionary story of the genus Homo in Europe. The TD6 level of the Gran Dolina site has yielded about one hundred remains belonging to a minimum of six individuals of the species Homo antecessor. These fossils, dated to the end of the Lower Pleistocene (800 kyr), provide the earliest evidence of hominin presence in Western Europe. The origin of these hominins is unknown, but they may represent a speciation event from Homo ergaster/Homo erectus. The TD6 fossils are characterized by a significant increase in cranial capacity as well as the appearance of a sapiens pattern of craniofacial architecture. At the Sima de los Huesos site, more than 4,000 human fossils belonging to a minimum of 28 individuals of a Middle Pleistocene population (ca. 500-400 kyr) have been recovered. These hominins document some of the oldest evidence of the European roots of Neanderthals deep in the Middle Pleistocene. Their origin would be the dispersal out of Africa of a hominin group carrying Mode 2 technologies to Europe. Comparative study of the TD6 and Sima de la Huesos hominins suggests a replacement model for the European Lower Pleistocene population of Europe or interbreeding between this population and the new African emigrants.
http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/cgi-bin/abstract/107615044/ABSTRACT?CRETRY=1&SRETRY=0
Hatred and envy against Europeans is the only reason of all the dumb pseudoscientific rants written here. That only achieve to demonstrate your impotence and frustation as you desesperately try to emulate the language of the White science you ironically pretend to despise so much. In Europe we have plenty of african blacks saying the same things, constantly vomiting their hatred and envy against Europeans. Go back to Africa before we White Europeans run out of our long abused patience and kick you back there. If you want to demonstrate the world that blacks aren’t the Failure of Humanity go back to Africa, work hard, do something useful insted of all your ignorant black racist sh*t against White Europeans. To vomit that it’s very easy but useless, haven’t you realized yet?
August 7th, 2007 at 7:37 pm
Errakles
The saddest thing about your types is that you are so dumb and thick headed you are barely literate.
Otherwise you would have understood the import of this part of your quote: “…These hominins document some of the oldest evidence of the European roots of Neanderthals deep in the Middle Pleistocene. Their origin would be the dispersal out of Africa of a hominin group carrying Mode 2 technologies to Europe. Comparative study of the TD6 and Sima de la Huesos hominins suggests a replacement model for the European Lower Pleistocene population of Europe or interbreeding between this population and the new African emigrants.”
Let me explain it to you…Your quote indicates that Africa is the origin of the modern human genes that mixed with neanderthals of Europe.
We are not in disagreement with that. So what is the point of your racist ranting? Are you ranting for yourself or on behalf of your mythical white Europeans?
We will not be baited by a parochial ignoramus from some lower class gutter.
We will instead permit you to stew in your own hatred. We will remind you of the need for psycho-analysis and counselling because wretched souls like you have been pre-program to their own damnation by a cynical system.
Go with your pink ass and get some sun tan. Remember your African roots. Perhaps it will make you feel better for the rest of the summer.
Jahdey
August 9th, 2007 at 6:26 pm
I’m so glad that the truth is coming out about us and the “WHITE LIE”.
The only thing great about a white man is that he a back stabbing cut throat who should never be thrusted. He lied, stoled, murdered, and rapped; all for white supremacy. Now he thinks he’s advanced in his civility, technology. All stollen from whom? Becuase working around I don’t see it. White Supremacy, I can barly say that with a strate face.
And as far as going back to Africa? Blacks have been here way before slavery or that punk columbus or the vikings.
So we’re not going any where, and if you think you’re going to force us out; keep in mind that skin heads, klans, or the nazi’s have been know only to attack unarmed and or old men, women (any age), and children. And when you do march in a Town you have police protection! So what are you talking about…?! Now I’m laughing!
As soon as we free our selves from the “WHITE LIE” you will see just how far we will achieve: The white mans greatist fear.
One thing the Chinese love to talk about is their history, I have two stack of kung fu movies to prove it.
So we should be very proud of our great history because it can and will dictate our future.
September 11th, 2007 at 10:27 am
Has anyone ever wondered if maybe God just made all types of people because he likes variety… sort of like he made all types of animals.. I mean since stories get watered down as they get passed along whether written or not, and since none of us were actually there many years ago when all these “transformations took place” and since last but not least, none of the dead ancestors have come back to tell us what happened, couldn’t it just be possible, like I said earlier in my response, that God knew that if there were one type of people and everyone looked the same, the world would be boring….. I mean by nature we yearn for different things otherwise we would never travel to see other places… I mean I can’t imagine the world any other way…. so why not embrace the differences… I mean heck regardless of how we look or our cultural differences, we all have a few things in common, we need air, food, sleep and love to exist….. so with that being said… we have more in common than the differences of how we look….
Peace…..
September 12th, 2007 at 7:31 am
Just Wondering:
I completely agree. God does love diversity and the the term “race” in the Bible is only used to refer to the “race of men.” According to the Bible, there is only one blood and one race.
In Christ
Taz
September 27th, 2007 at 6:51 am
what came first …teh chicken or the egg…does anyone really care?
where all here!
October 19th, 2007 at 1:46 pm
FIRST OF ALL, PEACE AND BLESSINGS TO ALL INHABITANTS OF THE MANY PLAINS OF CREATION. IT SADDENS ME TO SEE ALL THIS IGNORANCE AND HATRED DISPLAYED ON THIS WEBSITE. MOST OF YOU HAVE THE WRONG CONCEPTS AS TO YOUR ORIGINS AND YOU SHOW THE SIGNS OF A DEFEATED PEOPLE. JUST WHAT THE EVIL-SPIRITS WANT. THE FIGHT IS NOT WITH FLESH AND BONES, BUT WITH SPIRITUAL WICKEDNESS IN HIGH AND LOW PLACES. FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO DETACH YOURSELVES FROM YOUR ANCESTORS BY CALLING YOURSELVES COLORS SUCH AS BLACK AND WHITE DON’T HAVE ANY GROUND TO STAND ON IN ANY ARGUMENT ANYWHERE ON THE PLANET AND THE WHOLE UNIVERSE SHIVERS WITH THIS NEGATIVE ENERGY WHICH REACHES THE FAR REGIONS OF THE UNIVERSE. THE WHOLE PLANET ALSO LOOKS AND LAUGHS AT THE IGNORANCE THAT IS DISPLAYED IN THIS REGION OF THE GLOBE FOR THERE IS NOT, NEVER HAVE BEEN, OR NEVER WILL BE A BLACK OR WHITE PEOPLE ON THE PLANET THAT WE CALL EARTH WHICH IS NOT IT’S NAME BUT IT’S PLANETARY POSITION IN THE UNIVERSE. THE ANCIENT GODS(MEN AND WOMEN OF HIGH SPIRITUAL VALUES) OF THIS PLANET THAT ARE CALLED BY VARIOUS NAMES DIDN’T REACT THIS WAY AND UPON DISCOVERING OTHER PEOPLE LOOKED FOR HIGH REASONS AS TO WHY WE ALL WERE HERE AND UNDERSTOOD THAT EVERYTHING THAT HAD A BEGINNING MOST END AND LOOKED FOR WAYS TO LEARN FROM EACH OTHER(GREEKS AND EGYPTIANS). IT DOESN’T TAKE A ROCKET SCIENTIST TO UNDERSTAND WHO WAS FIRST AND LAST WHATS IMPORTANT IS THAT UPON DISCOVERING THE TRUTH WHICH IS THE BASES FOR ALL-KNOWING,YOU DON’T ACT LIKE THOSE YOU HATE OR DISLIKE. WHAT GOOD IS IT WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE GREAT ANCESTORS OF THE PAST THAT GAVE CIVILIZATION TO HUMANITY(EGYPT) OR SHOULD I SAY KEMIT FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE CONSCIOUS. RACISM ONLY BREEDS RACISM AND FROM THE LOOKS OF IT, YOU SO-CALLED BLACK FOLK ARE INFECTED. HOW CAN YOU PREACH OF THE DIVINE PRINCIPLES THAT OUR ANCESTORS DEVELOPED AND GAVE TO THE SO-CALLED EUROPEAN(NAME AFTER AN EGYPTIAN PHAROAH QUEEN) WITHOUT FIRST UNDERSTANDING THE COMPLETE PICTURE BY LEARNING OF YOURSELVES FIRST. THE BRANCH WOULDN’T CALL ITSELF GRASS JUST BECAUSE IT FELL TO THE GROUND, IT DIED BECAUSE IT COULDN’T REATTACH ITSELF TO ITS PARENT. THE VERY SAME CRAP THAT I SEE IN THIS DUMB PLACE THAT SO MANY CALL THE HOME OF THE FREE(FREE TO BE IGNORANT) AND THE LAND OF THE BRAVE(COWARDS THAT FIGHT WITHOUT ALL THE FACTS). IF A MAN CURSE YOU, DO YOU ACT THE SAME BARBARIC WAY OR DO YOU ALTER HIS PRECEPTION OF YOU BY SHOWING HIGH SPIRITUAL PRINCIPLES AS THE ORIGINAL GODS OF THE UNIVERSE. YOUR ANCESTOR WENT THRU SOME OF THE MOST HORRIFIC TIMES IN HISTORY AND ARE CALLING ON YOU TO SHOW THE HIGH SPIRITUAL VALUES THAT SPAWN THE GREATEST CIVILIZATION(BASED OF VERY HIGH SPIRITUAL VALUES)EVER KNOWN(KEMIT). YOU MUST GET AN CLEAR UNDERSTANDING OF WHERE YOU ARE IN HISTORY, WHERE YOU CAME FROM, AND WHERE YOU ARE GOING BEFORE YOU END UP BACK IN THE SAME SPOT ALL OVER AGAIN. YOU SO-CALLED BLACK PEOPLE. AND AS FAR AS YOU SO-CALLED WHITE PEOPLE WHO HAS NO HISTORY BEFORE THE GREEKS(THE FIRST SO-CALLED EUROPEANS) ARE UNGRATEFUL TO THE MOORS(BERBERS AND ARABS) WHO BROUGHT YOU OUT OF YOUR DARK AGES WITH SCIENCE, CULTURE, MATH, AND ART. YOU ALSO HAVE ALTERED THE COURSE OF HISTORY WITH YOUR MILITARY-LOGIC AND PREDATORY NATURE AND IGNORANCE BASED ON YOUR OWN PSYCHO-DILLUSIONAL MIND FROM YOUR LACK OF A RELATIONSHIP WITH NATURE WHICH IS WHY YOU SEEK TO DESTROY IT INSTEAD OF LIVING IN HARMONY WITH IT. I WOULD ADVISE YOU MIS-EDUCATED SLAVES(OF ALL NATIONALITIES) TO LEARN OF YOUR ANCESTORS) OR PREPARE FOR WAR!!!!!! I WILL BE BACK….
October 22nd, 2007 at 4:31 pm
MOOR 360 you need help
October 23rd, 2007 at 5:10 pm
Greetings In The Name Of The Most High Jah RasTafari.
In rasponse to MOOR 360 The I is feeling you.InI agree with 99% of what you have said.The trod of Iknowledge and Overstanding is not an easy one but the “TRUTH shall Set You Free” You can take a horse to water but you cant mek it Drink .InI see this thread more a battle for superiority rather than revealing the wisdom and Iknowledge that we have learned along in InI n all I life’s journey some times the truth hurts and people will react with the ignorance of their mis-information so they will raspond with their anger and not Iknowledge.Be Patient and continue to shine your Light, on every forum there will be more than one fanatic unsatisfied with the path life has taken them and blame Ivery Thing and ivery body we must love and embrace the Blessings of Iration and treat all of her Blessings with Raspect and care Stay Blessed SoulJah .InI Wish yuh Ivery Blessing ,Guidance and Protection the battle may just have begun.
One Love
December 3rd, 2007 at 3:39 pm
Biblical Black Hebrew Israelites
December 3rd, 2007 at 3:40 pm
Biblical Black Hebrew Israelites
http://templeofyah.org
December 11th, 2007 at 10:32 am
Im just blown away from the knowledge and ignorance of people.
But, I&I am very pleased and agree with MOOR 360.
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I am not full, yet! Feed me more info!
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December 11th, 2007 at 4:22 pm
“M00r 360″ - where do you believe the “Arabs/Berbers/Moors” recieved their “science/mathematics etc” from? They didn’t just “appear” out of nowhere…
December 16th, 2007 at 6:15 pm
man a lotta peoples concept of race is just about rediculous. all u gotta do is look at peoples faces. its not rocket science. north africans(moors berbers etc. are not “black”(i guess by “Black” if your talkin ethnicly {not socially} u mean central african features and skin tone)…so does that make light skinned south africans less black? i dont get it. it dont add up. north east (horn of africa area) africans are pretty much half black half arab…just look at any eritrean somali and many sudanese…just like burmese(myanmar) fools are pretty much half indian/ half khmer…all it takes is your own 2 eyeballs and half a brain. think on it.
its like calling a korean, a thai, japanese and a cambodian “asian” u people think they look ANYTHING alike? your tripping.
same thing goes for the way most africans look. its a HUGE continent filled w MANY peoples…who see themselves as different peoples.
AND ‘White”(another completely rediculous word for like 50 different races) european tribes. u try to lump so many diverse peoples into one “white” “black” “asian” or ‘Latin” race based on just skintone and you already fell out the ignorant tree and hit every branch on the way down.
yall mostly sound like a bunch of afrocentric or eurocentric nerds choking on hater tots on both sides of this argument. grow up. honestly.
and guess what..NEWSFLASH! it doesnt even MATTER!!!..lol
none of your descendants are gonna be “white” or “black” in any sense of the way YOU see it within 4 generations anyhow
another 10 gens and everyone can calm down and be brown. u got no choice but to sit back and watch all your seeds mingle. haha..do the math.
yall can get all huffy and puffy about who did what and went were first and who enslaved who…EVERYONE HAS AT SOME POINT… but in the end we r all one to begin with and allways have been below the skin and we are well on the way to physically looking like one global peoples on the out side and WILL be in pretty much of a sneeze as far as time is concerned.
the alterior race hate/pride motives in all these posts are SO obvious…
go make a half black baby or something.
youll feel better. ill feel better.
readin this has must agravate u pinche angry race centric fools off
but it makes me giggle like im stuck on stupid.
nature allways laughs last.
oh indeed.
say it wont.
December 17th, 2007 at 10:18 pm
my comment is for all those well meaning blacks whom suggests that the world will be just A.O K> once we all just mix it all up to a nice golden brown.Guess what my friend ; we all ready did ; their called arabs . problem is ;they found it convenient to enslave their darker brothers some where in the not to distance pass . this whole idea about blacks that happen to have a lighter hue , and therefore feel them selfs some what superior, is in it self a sickness perpetuated by there lack of understanding the brain washing they them selfs have been subjected to. one need only to look at the arabs situation in you no where to prove my point. Never the less this web site in my opinion is not about RACE ; it is about historical correctness it is important that blacks refute the image that the powers that be have impose upon them by distorting there contribution to the world .
It is the same as if some future empire other than whites where plunder tombs of presidents then impose their own images in their place , then take credit for all the achievements. Every white would be outraged. THE only obvious thing is that blacks have been mentally sabotaged by all this misinformation. By the time a young black reach 6 grade he or she is already left to wonder where they fit in to the contribution to the world .WE seek to stop this mental abuse by correcting the lies .
January 1st, 2008 at 12:57 pm
The argument of Black Africa has much evidence on both sides. The existence of Black Africans in egypt is certain. If they were the origins and their influence is hard to determine. You should not speek with such athority on either side.
January 12th, 2008 at 10:42 am
you need pictures
February 9th, 2008 at 4:55 am
Good reasoning here, I am loving it. Thanks so much! Let the truth be told. Thank You Yahawa! for taking the blind folds of my people’s eye. Thats right, RISE UP MY PEOPLE….. HaleLuYah!
February 10th, 2008 at 11:44 pm
Wow…there are some seriously angry people out there. What I don’t get, and will never get, is how a person of one (ANY) color/race can cry racism and in the virtual next breath spew ignorance and hatred for all those opposite of themselves.
Where I live “white/Caucasian” is minority. However, it is nearly impossible to tell until hearing someone speak. One of my best friends in the area was thought to be Italian, sounded Puerto Rican and surprised everyone with the reality of fleeing Iran mixed about garbage in back of a truck to save her 13 year old brother from his “military requirement”.
Every race/religion/creed has its flaws along with historical aghasts, but regardless of something as frivolous as appearance, shouldn’t we ALL be contributing towards PROGRESS in this day and age??
Peace is a choice.
February 13th, 2008 at 6:46 am
Erika, this is not about people being “angry” and “peace on earth good will toward men.” This is about the restoration of a history that was deliberately distorted, destroyed and suppressed for centuries by a global white power collective, which needed to justify its agenda of white domination of the planet. To convince a people to be slaves, you needed to make them believe they came from nothing. This is not about how someone looks or your friends. This is about truth. Anyone who fears it is in alliance with error. You’re not talking about real peace, because that cannot come so long as lies rule. You’re talking about acquiescence. Fear of offending. But anyone who fears to offend others for a just cause, is a copping out. Peace through respect of equality and heritage is genuine, peace through surrender of one’s identity to avoid discomfort, is cowardice.
February 13th, 2008 at 10:05 am
Everything taken by Western culture and hidden in the dark shall come to light. Those that deny Africa/blackness at the head of all things shall bow on their knees when all truths are revealed. Response not to those that consider themselves skeptic and take their time on this board to spew ignorances, for they are influenced by the arrogance and greed of the west and the desire to want everything, including stolen history. Lust and greed shall gain no reward.
February 14th, 2008 at 4:14 pm
I have a fairly high degree of E3b1 lines in my genealogy. About 1/16th total and am proud to be of African as well as Amerindian, West Asian and Caucasian descent. From my study, it seems to be clear that the majority of matrilineage for the E3b family outside of Africa is from the J Haplogroup. In North West Africa it is from the U6a. Pesent day East Africans are typically in the L mtdna with some J among others. My questions is this: for those E3b pioneers who ventured out of Africa into the Middle East and Europe so long ago, what was the matrilineage of those males as it was subsequently lost to history with thier Semitic admixture along the maternal lines? Was it from the L Haplogroup or other?
Thanks for your opinions on this. I’m am eager to hear.
Rayman
February 14th, 2008 at 4:36 pm
Rasman
What a global combination of genetic profile you have there.
On your query: I think that U6 specifically U6b should be given more closer consideration in terms of the pioneer African migrants to the middle east.
However, middle east and east Africa are basically the same land. The same ancient littoral landmass, the same topography, same animals, same plants, how do you figure the humans on both sides would be different.
Read the Original Black African Arabs of Arabia series on this website.
One love
Jahdey
February 14th, 2008 at 5:26 pm
Thanks Jahdey;
I don’t think they are that different. My guess is that when the first of our family to finally get out of Africa left the horn they went to Yemen not to the north. It was there that the J lines were gathered. Just a note, my family line to Africa was not broken until 6 generations ago and they came through Europe (Spain and France). So even in Europe our people maintained a singular community. I’m not saying that in any way other than the fact. I don’t believe in racism or separatism coming from any direction Black or White. But there were clearly clades of Afro-Europeans presidig as distinct entities into at least the 1670s. Otherwise my line would not prove by DNA to be the same on all sides of the extended families. E3b1/J2b1. I am as equally proud to be a descendent of these brillant African pioneers from the horn as I am to be a direct descendent of the Capatin of the Huron Bear Clan among 17 other native American families. But I do get very disheartended to see lateral violence both among Africans as well as Amerindians (I am a Tribal Indain). Given our Afican history and how it spread globally, it just makes no sense to me. By the way, I look white since my mother was white. However, my father’s family looks either Black, Asian or Amerindian depending on the child (14 of them). And yes I saw some discrimination first hand but life is not always easy. We just overcome and move on.
Thank You for your response. I will read the link you have recommended.
Best Regards
Rasman
February 15th, 2008 at 4:11 pm
Jahdey;
Thanks for reminding me about U6b. It is a minority in it’s own right. Yes of course that lineage is also found in West Africa among some scattered other locations. I don’t know too much about it but it deserves serious consideration. I think the U6a lines may have reached the Americas long before Columbus but there is much work to be done to prove that and I try to avoid speculation. As far as I know I don’t have either of these lines but I find them very interesting nonetheless. The whole U group is interesting in that it also relates to Saami people who are very close in culture to Natie Americans. What is facinatig to me is that although all our brothers and sisters come from Africa originally, we still have these lines that did not evolve that far from their origins and are still identifiable in present African cultures. Now you got me stirred up on the U6b, I have to keep my eye out for any U6b DNA results here in America. We have some interesting and controversial U6a results already. Keep thinking and studying. Be well and keep the peace.
Best Regards
Rasman
March 1st, 2008 at 6:40 pm
everything is a mutation, from the apes to the first homo sapiens, etc.
race is an idea build by human. it doesn’t matter if you black, brown, white, etc. all that bulls**t is in our head. racism is also an idea by human. we are all human and nothing else matter in this case. so one world one love and hoppfully one future.
greetz
August 2nd, 2008 at 12:05 pm
This article doesn’t go far enough. In fact it is as misleading as it accuses modern history of being, on account of its labeling original men Africans.
The name African is a Latin based word derived from Africus the indigenous Latin wind god representing a south westerly direction (in relation to Rome or Greece). Africa is merely the equivalent of Land to the South West and originally only a tiny piece of modern Tunisia was referred to by it.
To think that this word is used to describe the original inhabitants of every continent, knowing what it actually means, one must question either the competency of the writer prescribing it or his ulterior, clandestine or guarded motives.
Granted he may not be aware of the facts, he should still realize the word did not exist prior to the Grecian acquisition of the Pelasgians’ lands.
In other words, he uses this word to suggest a migration from Africa into Europe, when in fact Africa is the world’s largest human reservation.
Original men came to –no– fled to Africa from every place else.